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Yeah, this same kind of

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 06 Apr 2016 18:42:42 +0000

In reply to No, you are propagating a lie

Yeah, this same kind of bullshit, worrying about Mark Penn or someone else costing too much. Elections cost money, successful campaigns cost money. Save a penny, lose the election - will someone cheer?

No, you are propagating a lie

Mike — Wed, 06 Apr 2016 17:37:01 +0000

In reply to Not only can he not do it

No, you are propagating a lie. He did not pay his "campaign manager" $810K. The source that you are referencing clearly shows that the $810K line item went to the media COMPANY, Devine Mulvey Longabaugh, Inc. What does the media company do that is worth that kind of money, you ask? Perhaps media related activities for a political campaign that is being blacked out by the major establishment media.

I've been through Hillary's

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 02 Apr 2016 09:31:12 +0000

In reply to I. The investment banks.

I've been through Hillary's speech list before and noted that a reasonably low percent was controversial. No need to repeat.

Some of the economic issues I address in my latest diary (the Next Revolution)

I have been honest from the

rmrd0000 — Fri, 01 Apr 2016 14:19:39 +0000

In reply to Yes, sure, yeah and no doubt.

I have been honest from the start about Sanders. I would support him as the nominee. Obviously black support for Sanders could increase. I would still ask about supporting a guy would doesn't support downstream Democratic candidates. He criticizes the corporate fund-raising methods of the DNC based on his successful campaign. Many of us doubt his success could be duplicated by a large number of candidates.I do not see Sanders building the lasting structure he needs for a revolution.

Hillary has been called a liar and worse, I'm surprised that you think that pointing out obvious flaws in Sanders promises is harsh. Why do you support a guy who seems reluctant to pay to build the Congressional support he will need?

Yes, sure, yeah and no doubt.

kyle flynn — Fri, 01 Apr 2016 14:04:56 +0000

In reply to Black voters heavily

Yes, sure, yeah and no doubt. Not necessarily in that order.

mind boggling responses from you guys. I'm not hanging any hopes on anything, nor am I trying to score any points. Hell, I'm not even trying to make a point. I thought his perspective was interesting and some of his supporting links were compelling. Absent some huge unknown, Clinton will be the nominee. If this is winning for you grumpy S.O.B.'s, I'd hate to see you lose.

I voted in a caucus state. I

A Guy Called LULU — Fri, 01 Apr 2016 13:17:30 +0000

In reply to You're right. The piece you

I voted in a caucus state. I walked in the door, stood in a short line, showed a picture ID, picked up a ballot, voted , and and was back in my car after about twenty minutes total. I could have stayed and waited until 8:30 when delegates were chosen and I wish I had but I was in a hurry. I don't know how caucuses run in any other state but in my state they did not take any extra time. Sanders won by a very big margin.

Black voters heavily

rmrd0000 — Fri, 01 Apr 2016 12:23:29 +0000

In reply to rm, tell me if any of this is

Black voters heavily supported Hillary on Super Tuesday. Do I have a problem believing that black voters in Wisconsin support Sanders? No. Do I have a problem believing that Sanders will win Wisconsin? No. If Sanders is the Democratic nominee, I will support him.

I will vote for the charlatan who is promising a "revolution", but unwilling to support downstream Democrats. I will vote for Sanders despite supporters who suggest that a Trump victory would usher in their Revolution (tm). Sanders would still be a better option than Trump or Cruz. Sanders would be a complete failure, but at a different level than Trump or Cruz.

I would truly fear for my country if Sanders won because he has no real experience to deal with what he will face. As Barney Frank notes, Sanders has done nothing in Congress to make him a national leader.

Why do you urge me to vote for the guy unwilling to fund the Congressional structure Needed to support his goals?

Believe exit polling at your

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 01 Apr 2016 09:39:03 +0000

In reply to rm, tell me if any of this is

Believe exit polling at your peril - Sanders won Hispanics in Nevada? Hardly. Hillary up by 40% in Illinois? Only by weird outlier polls. Losing the black vote? You keep believing that. Yes, caucuses eat up several hours and many people can't be bothered, which is why they end up with 1/5 to 1/10th of the turnout for a primary, which favors people with more time (students?) and the rabidly engaged.

These folks know how to look for the pony though. Doesn't matter they're being gutted, there's a unicorn and a rainbow on the horizon if just the right people turn out to vote.

You dropped two links on us,

ocean-kat — Fri, 01 Apr 2016 08:26:39 +0000

In reply to You're right. The piece you

You dropped two links on us, the equivalent of two long blogs. I could have gone through them line by line but I don't have time for that and I don't find that a fun way to spend my time. Easy for you drop a link, hard and time consuming for me. Now I did read an article that countered many of the points in one of the articles written as a response to Abramson. I could have searched for that article and simply dropped the link. But I don't play link wars. I picked a couple of points that I thought illustrative of Abramson's main premise and responded to them.

What we know is that polling data on general election match ups are grossly inaccurate this far out. They are especially inaccurate with primary candidates who have never been nationally vetted in prior elections. Polls can provide useful data if thoughtfully considered. Sometimes that necessary thoughtful consideration reveals the data to actually be errata.

If you need to hang your hopes on worthless polling data go for it. But don't think you'll score any points here doing it.

Maybe Hal would have people .

oldenGoldenDecoy — Fri, 01 Apr 2016 06:55:29 +0000

In reply to If they dont read and vote

Maybe Hal would have people . . .

Six months supervised poop pickup...

~OGD~