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Hillary's "Listening Tour"

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 05 Apr 2016 05:51:18 +0000

In reply to 1) True, "no drama" isn't her

Hillary's "Listening Tour" across New York in 2000 seemed to have made her quite loved, or appreciated if that's too strong. Hillary's time in South Carolina listening to black women speak seems to have drawn raves and support as well - in this case "loved". Perhaps we're confusing pep rallies with other kinds of displays of "love". Hill Girl does alright when she finds her groove & doesn't panic. She's the methodical one, the letter writer, the list keeper.

And if you listened to men talk about their wives, you might think not many are loved, yet the divorce rate isn't that high. Go figger.

For #2, in poll after poll in

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 05 Apr 2016 04:45:06 +0000

In reply to 1) True, "no drama" isn't her

For #2, in poll after poll in 2012 she was at 66% favorability, a peak she'd hit in 1999. Pew provides her lifetime stats, which compared to many public figures, never bottom out that low - after 1997, the lowest is 48%. Yes, there's a cottage industry of Hillary haters that will never go away, but yes, by convention time she will be loved much more than Mondale or Dukakis or John Kerry or Al Gore, much less Ted Cruz or Donald Trump who make Hillary-hate seem anodyne. And yes, people will be tugging their little girls to go see Hillary to show that "you too can be president", the "any woman but not that woman" fervor long subsided.

Wonky? Okay, she's wonky. As she admits, she's not a natural politician, didnt see herself in front of the mic/camera until 1999 after deep reflection. Some might say that's a plus.

Hal, you are tiresome, and

CVille Dem — Tue, 05 Apr 2016 01:47:58 +0000

In reply to I cut and pasted directly

Hal, you are tiresome, and frankly not worth the effort.. I note that you pick and choose the things you respond to. There is no point, and nothing to be gained by this fake back and forth. I leave it to others to expose your inconsistencies and lies. I am done. Have a nice day!

I cut and pasted directly

HSG — Tue, 05 Apr 2016 01:30:03 +0000

In reply to Hal, I am actually not as

I cut and pasted directly from your previous post. But I appreciate your correction. Now I understand you are voting against Bernie because he doesn't have dozens of friends in the House and Senate but you are voting for Hillary even though she also doesn't have dozens of friends in the House and Senate. Makes tons of sense.

The bald assertion that "Hillary is smarter than Bernie" is utterly without foundation. THe claim that she'd be the better President because she "knows how to get things done, unlike Bernie" would have persuasive power if you could point to a number of good things she'd gotten done that outweigh the harm, I and others have painstakingly detailed, that she has caused.

Hal, I am actually not as

CVille Dem — Mon, 04 Apr 2016 23:50:30 +0000

In reply to You recoil against my claim:

Hal, I am actually not as simple minded as you assume. The weaknesses I see in Bernie have nothing to do with the strengths I see in Hillary. Bernie Sanders is an aging loner who has irritated many of his cohorts with his "my way or the highway" attitude toward everyone he should have been building coalitions with. He has absolutely no one he can rely on in Congress, just as he has no record to stand on. He also has not been vetted because the Republicans want him to win instead of HRC, who they know they can't beat.

I did not write the words, "Hillary has dozens of friends, etc..." Please don't ascribe quotes to me that are not mine. You can quote this: "Hillary is smarter than Bernie, and knows how to get things done, unlike Bernie."

You recoil against my claim:

HSG — Mon, 04 Apr 2016 23:25:48 +0000

In reply to You once again insult me by

You recoil against my claim: "You're voting for Clinton because the Democratic establishment prefers her." I wrote that because you wrote: "There isn't anything [] that will change my mind [that Clinton is best] unless I find out that I was wrong, and Bernie has dozens of friends in the Senate and House he can call on to help him push things through."

In your own words, your preference for Clinton is based on the fact she has "dozens of friends in the Senate and House", i.e., the Democratic establishment prefers her.

1) True, "no drama" isn't her

Michael Wolraich — Mon, 04 Apr 2016 22:39:32 +0000

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1) True, "no drama" isn't her issue. But "wonky" is her issue. If you want to mobilize voters to fight for an idea, keep it simple. (The wonky details are important eventually, but only when you have the votes to actually pass a bill.)

2) I agree that "hated" is an exaggeration, but I don't see her ever being "loved."

It's not enough to regret.

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 04 Apr 2016 22:38:38 +0000

In reply to I regret the locution

It's not enough to regret. Did you apologize and make amends? Did you do penance? Did you dance the watusi? I still feel all dislocuted, but part of that may be Quinn, he has that effect. In any case, step to it.

I regret the locution

Michael Wolraich — Mon, 04 Apr 2016 22:32:45 +0000

In reply to Mike called you guys

I regret the locution

Mike called you guys

quinn esq — Mon, 04 Apr 2016 22:24:11 +0000

In reply to RiteAid - we are the world.

Mike called you guys "interlocutors" up there earlier.

When tempers get raised to that level, you know me - I back off.