dagblog - Comments for "How Pathetic are We?"

Thanks for elevating the

A Guy Called LULU — Wed, 20 Apr 2016 15:44:42 +0000

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Thanks for elevating the discussion. Hope to see more from you here.

Thank you for the considered

Goldberry♥TomB — Wed, 20 Apr 2016 15:26:43 +0000

Thank you for the considered response, PeraclesPlease. To say my worldview is different from yours would be an understatement. ;-) From American Exceptionalist defense budget as a deterrent to war (the actual budget is about twice that figure, according to Nick Turse) to fracking as the lesser of nine evils. But yes to socialism 2.0, although globally that may take many different forms but amount to shared power, perhaps horizontal democracy, etc.

As for Bernie's brand, if he really were a socialist, I'd likely vote for him. Happy blogging to you, too. Sorry I've been so long, but life has been a trainwreck for me. Real Life: they say it'll killa ya, but they won't say when!

Oh I had to come back.

Richard Day — Mon, 18 Apr 2016 17:45:14 +0000

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Oh I had to come back.

HOW PATHETIC ARE WE?

I hereby render unto Peracles the Dayly Headline of the Month for this here Dagblog Site, given to all of him fro all of me. hahahahah

Maher underlines this issue every goddamn week he decides to go to work!

hahahahah

In the end, all people are strange!

Sure, sure, the nerve of you

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 18 Apr 2016 08:18:04 +0000

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Sure, sure, the nerve of you trying to debate on a political blog. Go to your room.

Rudest? I was banned for

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 18 Apr 2016 07:59:42 +0000

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Rudest? I was banned for nothing on Huffpost, DailyKos shut me down, OpenLeft had 2 extremely scornful bloggers coming back at me, TBogg cut off my account *while* continuing to insult me, Shakespeares Sister was brutal for those who didnt toe a certain line, I was one of the most abrasive and hardest hitting at TPM, and past Dag arguments with rmrd, wattree, tmac, oceankat, resistance and others were much ntier and more vitriolic than our recent kumbaya behavior. People dont recognize paradise much cause they focus on the grubworms and skeeters. It's all good (except for Quinn of course) - now play ball, enough of this navel gazing.

Hardly my intent. On

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 18 Apr 2016 07:47:03 +0000

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Hardly my intent. On alternate days I swing the opposite, as you've probably noticed. I'm still looking for a Hillary win tomorrow, still looking for her to manage gov as the adult in the room, push women's need higher in the agenda , and hopefully catching the vibe of Gov and World 3.0, not just 1990's redux.

My post-millenials are in the loft, not the basement, still a bit detached from cause and effect, but in some ways much more aware than I was at that age. A lot of promise, even if they don't get the keys and driver's cap just yet. Keep me young and hustling as well.

Helluva comment, read it

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 18 Apr 2016 07:12:26 +0000

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Helluva comment, read it twice & still trying to digest, but overall thanx.

The French know how to do ramparts, in their blood. Austerity is trying to teach the same lesson twice, but the New Economics school is about suspended gravity. The truth is somewhere in the middle, focused on results, not political messaging.

Fracking is the lesser of 9 evils, something the left has trouble accepting. Definitely needs oversight and improvement, but it's a Godsend for us atheists.

Start thinking about New Socialism, 2.0 - work and play and retirement and support models that fit technology and resources of 2030-2050. The whole means of production thing needs a makeover, the assumptions of what people are and how fit into this schema needs updating. In the west, we need more efficiency and less work, or less serious stuff. Once we accept that a huge portion of our economy is silly and frivolous, to work or not to work beggars the question. We just need some basic reallocation of resources, not that much. 2 items to note...

Healthcare - single payer is a nice slogan, but the real issue is still affordable basic healthcare for all, which includes disability and retirement. At some point we will hit the right ingredients that whacks the knees out of health costs like fracking's done oil and gas. *That's* the revolution.

Defense is trickier. While we see refugeesand war across the Mideast, it's nothing like the wars of yesterday, and we (the planet) have largely ended war. How much the US is responsible for this improvement vs working against it is more difficult to analyze than it seems at first glance. That $700 billion a year may be a small price to pay to prevent total war, but it seems likely our execution of military and foreign affairs can be improved. Yet without appreciating the Pax (Americana?), the conclusions will likely be simplistic and dangerous. I was reading "All Quiet on the Western Front" last night - 100 years ago and a hell that was surpassed 75 years ago, and in places like Congo and Cambodia surpassed much more recently. This is a chapter best kept turned, and while we work to improve things, we should never forget the ugly alternative possibility, our former reality. Corruption is not as bad as Total War. Small civil wars or terrorist acts are not as awful as Total War. Even our fight with Global Warming looks winnable and less destructive, inch'allah, than Total War.

Me on the Banner? I'm too abrasive and arbitrary. When the wind catches the boom, anyone can get hurt. Even myself. Happy blogging.

Goldberry, you are an

Oxy Mora — Mon, 18 Apr 2016 03:19:49 +0000

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Goldberry, you are an interesting character and I had no idea of your circumstances.

Talk about gettin preachy. Jeesh.

Thanks for the input.

NCD — Mon, 18 Apr 2016 02:30:25 +0000

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Thanks for the input.

I wasn't debating, just trying to present some facts.

Apologies, and don't have

quinn esq — Mon, 18 Apr 2016 02:22:49 +0000

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Apologies, and don't have time to debate this in detail now, NCD, but Howarth is actually a real and fairly well respected voice in all this. In fact, much of what he was talking about is now more mainstream.

Natural Gas has serious and growing issues around it's climate change weighting [the weight given to it rises with each International review], and the estimates of actual emissions [as opposed to industry estimates] get uglier each year. Go check out the studies on emissions actually measured, from planes, over Oklahoma and the like, versus industry's estimates. Ugh.

Natural gas has been heavily oversold in the US, and fracking along with it. Given that fracking is now an enormous walking financial zombie [i.e. the industry long ago collapsed as a viable concern], I'd say the critics - like Howarth - are reasonably well-situated in the whole field.

And I say this as someone who has often recommended a portion of natural gas in our mix, to help balance renewables.