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You seem to forget that I

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 21 Apr 2016 13:18:05 +0000

You seem to forget that I support Hillary.

It doesn't much matter to me what Bernie says because he's lost. What I care about now is what will make her stronger, and self-examination and rousing the troops are 2 pieces of that puzzle.

Stealing the good bits from Bernie's show and lessons-learned from what drives his supporters are 2 more pieces.

And his campaign fundraising couldn't have been that flawed or he wouldn't have outraised Hillary the last months. Yes, mistakes will happen in campaign finance, between contributors, bundlers, unsavory donors, et al. The picayune stuff was on the other foot in 2008. Anyway, it's done. What can she learn from it all?

I expect Bernie is

Flavius — Thu, 21 Apr 2016 13:13:48 +0000

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I expect Bernie is financially honest enough. And if he isn't I really don't care..

I think he's politically dishonest in promising an unachievable agenda .But for a politician, any one, that's like saying the sun rises in the east.

Sadly, his economic plan put the em pha' sis on the wrong syl la' ble. Thomas Jefferson when we need Hamilton.

Perhaps we could have afforded Nafta if we hadn't indulged ourselves in the "Reagan Revolution". But we had so we couldn't.

Destroying or at least very seriously hampering the banking system's ability to recyle some of our Post Reagan private wealth into domestic investment will echo Bill's mistake of implementing Nafta post Reagan.

Under some circumstances I could imagine being tempted to kick the banking industry in the shins. But not when it's the last support for our anemic economy. I see several plusses to a Hillary presidency. But by far the chief one is that she would not punish the banks.

You know, the contrast is

CVille Dem — Thu, 21 Apr 2016 12:32:21 +0000

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You know, the contrast is remarkable to me. Bernie rants about Hillary being bribed without one single piece of evidence, and he gets away with it over and over again. He got his feelings hurt over an inaccurate headline and proceeded to give the GOP great lines for their anti-Hillary ads. He still blames his "going negative" on her based on that same headline. All of this and much more is just false.

But when there is actual proof that Bernie's money numbers are quite different from what he says, you excuse it because his wife does his taxes? When one person makes more than 20 contributions in a day, some for less than a dollar, presumably to make the average donation work out to a low number, I think it's fair to say that it is planned subterfuge. Bernie is getting millions of dollars in a day so I think he can afford to hire enough good people to manage the donations. I hope you aren't suggesting that Bernie's wife is handling them for him.

But OK, so the lovable (?) old coot is just overwhelmed, and would NEVER do anything wrong (evidence to the contrary notwithstanding), but it's a given -- an indisputable fact that Hillary is corrupt. Like I said, the contrast is remarkable, and it offends me.

Bernie's done us a favor.

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 21 Apr 2016 05:01:38 +0000

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Bernie's done us a favor.

Post-Citizen's United we thought it impossible that little contributions would make a difference anymore, that corporate donors and billionaire-backed slush funds like Rove's for Koch would determine everything, flood the market.

Instead, Bernie's put together a credible attack based on small irate and enthusiastic donors, even outspending Hillary by $2 million on media buys in New York. He made Hillary go back to her big pocket donors and they've proven reluctant, and made her seek more small dollar money. All this is good. Sure, some enthusiasts will overdo it, break the rules, and there was always overyhype - it's a campaign, after all.

Tough Republicans won't be quite as chintzy as Democrats, so at least it's nice to send a message that it's not a guaranteed buyoff. Especially if the message gets out to smaller races that every little donation counts.

Yes, Bernie's a guy from Vermont, and the tens of millions of donations - $5 million in one day? - probably overwhelmed their accounting, especially if he's used to his wife doing his taxes. So sue him. If he got elected, he'd have better accountants and million-dollar systems dealing with his programs.

I don't think being too critical of him and his money-raising helps him at this point. His donors have sent a message - a whole lot of Americans don't like the WalMarts and Goldman Sachs and Raytheons and Halliburtons/KBRs controlling the agenda, What can we learn from that message?

264 pages of over-the-limit contributions? Being generous at 50 pre page, that's about 10,000 contributions/contributors. By end of December he reported 2.3 million individual contributors, so 10K would be about 0.5%. (numbers seem a bit confused, as I see 2 million contributors from March with 5 million contributions, but in any case, ten thousand errors is a small percentage for a large operation. PayPal's early days probably had similar problems).

Bernie's same financial team

NCD — Wed, 20 Apr 2016 16:16:09 +0000

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Bernie's same financial team will break up the big banks, smoothly and effortlessly. We just don't know what will be left when he is done, and neither does he.

Just don't hold him accountable for anything. Or ask too many questions.

The '$27 donation' line is a laugh.

There are 264 pages of contributions over the legal limit, perhaps Koch industries is paying for his chartered jets.

'Peter Dean' got a $3542.00 'refund' with no record that he contributed anything.

Petty cash getting drained without vendors.

Here is the link i clickable

CVille Dem — Wed, 20 Apr 2016 14:03:34 +0000

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Once again, Bernie 2016 has problems. This time, there are a lot of problems – 270 pages of problems. Bernie’s money machine can’t seem to get it right. If anything, the responsible committee is getting worse at its accounting, worse at its disclosures, worse at its arithmetic, and much worse at accepting donations far exceeding the $2700 limit for the primary.

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https://gobling.wordpress.com/2016/04/17/the-campaign-that-keeps-on-taki...

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