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Hal can you not understand

rmrd0000 — Tue, 14 Jun 2016 01:55:32 +0000

In reply to Thanks for the clarification

Hal can you not understand that Sanders and his supporters pissed off the black community because Sanders came with a rigid position. Anyone who disagrees , like Civil Rights icon John Lewis was said to have sold out to the Clintons. Are there no Sanders supporters who understand the anger that causes? When are Sanders supporters going to form coalitions with minority groups?

Thanks for the clarification

HSG — Mon, 13 Jun 2016 23:54:50 +0000

In reply to Hal, I was commenting on the

Thanks for the clarification RMRD. I misunderstood and that's on me. Now that you have explained so even I get it, I think what you wrote is fair. I don't have any answers. As I have noted, I support Hillary but not enthusiastically.

Hal, I was commenting on the

rmrd0000 — Mon, 13 Jun 2016 19:08:29 +0000

In reply to RMRD - forgive me for saying

Hal, I was commenting on the article detailing a divide in the Democratic Party along racial lines. The article noted that Hillary did better with non-white voters. Blacks were ready to vote for Sanders if he had won. Sanders supporters have been vocal about what they must receive in order to vote for Hillary. I state the facts as I see them. I am not creating any divide, I am commenting on a divide that already exists. Blacks were ready to support either Democratic candidate. Sanders supporters want concessions. The divide is not coming from the black community. Why is Sanders failing to pick up on this point?

Moreover, we may even be able

HSG — Mon, 13 Jun 2016 18:59:16 +0000

In reply to NCD, if you recall, I wrote a

Moreover, we may even be able to work on some issues with those racist conservatives and by working with them hopefully change their thinking on race. (Eugene Robinson writes about the late Senator Robert Byrd's journey from being a member in the KKK to a supporter of civil rights.}

Some may favor universal single-payer healthcare if they can be convinced it will benefit them and their families. They may oppose job-destroying trade deals. They may support unions. Sanders had it right when he told the folks at Liberty University they may never see eye to eye on abortion but perhaps they can agree that no American should lack basic healthcare and education.

RMRD - forgive me for saying

HSG — Mon, 13 Jun 2016 18:51:18 +0000

In reply to Hillary overcame the "racial

RMRD - forgive me for saying you're engaging in black and white thinking. While I certainly think and have explained precisely why I believe Sanders would have been better for the great majority of Americans, I would never declaim that her supporters are wholly responsible for a racial divide.

Doesn't your statement to this effect create/exacerbate any divide? Wouldn't it behoove us to look for ways to work together? Even though you disagree, is it possible that many Sanders supporters, including millions of color, believe in good faith he would have been better for African-Americans?

Trump is suggesting that

rmrd0000 — Mon, 13 Jun 2016 16:24:03 +0000

In reply to I think that in this election

Trump is suggesting that Obama is a Muslim.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/islamic-state-orlando-shooter-omar...

I think that we can hone in one the racists.

I think that in this election

rmrd0000 — Mon, 13 Jun 2016 16:01:49 +0000

In reply to It is unfortunate that we can

I think that in this election cycle we can specifically and easily note that Republican voters selected a racist. On the issue of racial divide in the Democratic Party, it came more from the Sanders camp. Republicans are gearing up to elect a racist. The divide in the Democratic Party does not compare with the gap created by the Republicans. Sanders was tone deaf on race, but still would be the overwhelming choice of black voters in the General Election if he had won.

Trump's rise is associated with racism. Sanders' problem is not being able to connect with the black community as well as Hillary. We are talking about two different racial divides. Trump is toxic. Sanders divide is based on his lack of knowledge of black voters. Trump has the backing of white supremacists. Sanders has far-Left African-Americans in his corner.

It is unfortunate that we can

barefooted — Mon, 13 Jun 2016 15:37:34 +0000

In reply to Hillary overcame the "racial

It is unfortunate that we can't logically put the creation of racial divides on one specific group - it would be so much easier to defeat if we could.

Hillary overcame the "racial

rmrd0000 — Mon, 13 Jun 2016 15:11:51 +0000

In reply to It's a good point, barefooted

Hillary overcame the "racial divide". The racial problem lies with Sanders and his supporters. The Sanders supporters were the ones who labeled John Lewis and others sellouts. Blacks are realists when it comes to voting. Susan Sarandon, etc can talk about revoution because they have the means to leave if things get bad.

When BLM's Deray McKessick ran for Mayor in Baltimore, he came in 6th.

Blacks realize that Martin Luther King Jr. was the better political path compared to Malcolm X. Blacks are much more in line with Hillary than Sanders. It is the Sanders supporters creating the racial divide.

It's a good point, barefooted

Michael Wolraich — Mon, 13 Jun 2016 14:28:42 +0000

In reply to Mike, you may agree with

It's a good point, barefooted, and BLM helped expose some of those divisions. That said, while I expect that racial friction in the Democratic Party to continue, I don't expect it to be as combustible as class friction in the near future. I could be wrong though. We all have blindspots.