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One interesting feature to

moat — Sat, 23 Jul 2016 01:44:41 +0000

In reply to A Thought Experiment for Dagbloggers

One interesting feature to Trump becoming the candidate is how many of his supporters report wanting to poke the eye of the System more than bring about anything his outfit puts forward as a particular policy. Apart from what is at stake as political contest, that quality reveals an odd faith that our polity is self sufficient to the degree that it can subtend gestures of its dissolution as a form of rhetoric in a larger conversation.

But there is no larger conversation. We lie in the beds we make and the deals we accept. A lot of political advantage could be gained by getting people to think about their own situation without telling them what the correct answer is after thinking about it.

Maybe the Left should embrace some of the Libertarian spirit abandoned by the Right. Develop alternatives that increase options rather than try to own the results of everything that happens. The Right used to own that narrative until Reagan promised a chicken in most pots if we only let Capitalism off the leash of Liberal restraint. The world has turned and most people don't think either the market or the government can do anything more than what they are designed to do.

If that part of the discussion was addressed directly, it would undermine the Trumpet theme that Liberals are afraid to talk about what is happening.

Right. The story has to be

CVille Dem — Fri, 22 Jul 2016 22:55:26 +0000

In reply to It's a great question, CVille

Right. The story has to be one of optimism. That is why the GOP is all about fear. Somehow, there will need to be a way for the average person to see in front of their own eyes, that there is hope.

Danny, I agree that

CVille Dem — Fri, 22 Jul 2016 22:52:45 +0000

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Danny, I agree that information is power, and for too long false information has been successfully touted as truth. The media may not be "trusted" but they have the power to make assumptions which have been put out there, become truth to those who don't try to vet what they are told.

I am profoundly disappointed in the non-effort that was made to give the positive information about the ACA. Maybe they could hire the same writers who provide the script for the Washington Correspondents Dinner to get the message out. They are clever and funny.

But to your point about people having a hard time changing their world view, that is a subject that interests me. In fact I plan to blog on it. I have had actual, memorable moments that my world view was changed.

Interesting topic. How to achieve it?

"I have an app for that!"

stillidealistic — Thu, 21 Jul 2016 20:55:54 +0000

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"I have an app for that!" would make a terrific stump speech line, plus it's a great idea!

Stop means testing things.

Michael Wolraich — Thu, 21 Jul 2016 20:36:44 +0000

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Stop means testing things.

Totally agree. One reason Medicare and SS are so much more popular than Medicaid is that everyone gets it.

I appreciate the comments

CVille Dem — Thu, 21 Jul 2016 20:12:56 +0000

In reply to A Thought Experiment for Dagbloggers

I appreciate the comments from everyone and I will respond to each -- just can't do it right now.

Very good observation, and

CVille Dem — Thu, 21 Jul 2016 20:11:25 +0000

In reply to One of the root problems is

Very good observation, and who wants to hear, "Go to her website" and see how she would approach these problems. How about:

I have an app for that!

Seriously, the Clinton campaign should invest some bucks in designing an app to search her policy positions. Easy to find, easy to understand, and usable by anyone. Millenials might even be drawn to it.

Anybody know anyone in the campaign to give them a nudge?

One of the root problems is

ocean-kat — Thu, 21 Jul 2016 20:09:48 +0000

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One of the root problems is how to reach people who don't pay attention. I've been reading some of the interviews of disgruntled voters who dislike both candidate. One refrain is they aren't hearing policy ideas from either side to deal with the problems. My god, policy ideas is all Hillary has. "I have a plan for that" should be her election slogan. She has no stage presence, no charisma, little skill at speech making. All she is is a policy wonk. Probably the most well informed policy wonk in at least the last 50 years on every single issue that the country faces. And people are saying no one has a plan to deal with my, or the country's problems.

There is another problem

Michael Maiello — Thu, 21 Jul 2016 19:36:32 +0000

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There is another problem which is that the help we tend to offer people is bad. I think that a good number of poor whites who wind up on food stamps ultimately convince themselves, through tales of welfare queens and the like, that there is some sort of "good welfare" out there that more experienced, um, "urban" people are able to exploit, or that there are special benefits for minorities in need that are not available to white people in need.

I think you underestimate the

ocean-kat — Thu, 21 Jul 2016 19:26:07 +0000

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I think you underestimate the ability of people to hold contradictory thoughts. I saw a documentary a year or so ago. Poor whites claiming they deserved the help all the while complaining about the browns and blacks cheating the system to get that same help.