dagblog - Comments for "Burning Hillary at the Stake: A Race Like No Other"

Yes, we have some real

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 23 Jul 2016 16:55:09 +0000

In reply to If we are being honest, the

Yes, we have some real factors that white groups arent used to suffering (see similar in the UK, etc) combined with some cultivated victimhood (war on Christianity, etc). Minorities are more picked on and more resilient with lowered expectations.

Yes, that circle brings one

moat — Sat, 23 Jul 2016 14:48:10 +0000

In reply to In the end, we are not

Yes, that circle brings one to making a decision about who to vote for. But it doesn't assign causality of events to candidates at the expense of understanding the environment within which their decisions were made.

Once adherence to the "status quo" is brought into the discussion, the causality for events necessarily becomes a matter of all the forces and conditions that brought us to this moment. The appeal of revolutionary thought and agents is the idea that they can more directly influence outcomes and profoundly change our environment. In that sense, a Lenin is more of a "cause" for what happened after he acted than a Reagan.

I am inclined to agree with Tolstoy that this difference of "originality" is ultimately an illusion. But I don't see a way to talk about politics without it.

If we are being honest, the

rmrd0000 — Sat, 23 Jul 2016 04:33:11 +0000

In reply to No matter how satisfying and

If we are being honest, the question is why white voters are flocking to Trump. Blacks and Latinos have worse employment and economic numbers but they are not supporting Trump. This is more about white voters than it is about Hillary.

In the end, we are not

A Guy Called LULU — Sat, 23 Jul 2016 04:21:41 +0000

In reply to Creation is a pretty big

In the end, we are not talking about this particular candidate in a particular contest but the nature of our world and what we should be doing in it.

I think that is right but the "what we should be doing about it" part circles us back to where we are now which is presumably includes wanting the country/world to go in a better direction and a personal decision pertinent to that is which particular candidate we now want to become President and why we want that and the "why" part brings us back, today, to Hillary Clinton.

There's no "narrative" - he's

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 23 Jul 2016 03:01:58 +0000

In reply to Creation is a pretty big

There's no "narrative" - he's just tossing out a balloon. Move on, there's no here here.

Creation is a pretty big

moat — Sat, 23 Jul 2016 02:46:58 +0000

In reply to No matter how satisfying and

Creation is a pretty big thing.

I get the argument that Clinton is a part of the status quo and will replicate what has been established. I hope it doesn't go down as badly as you are expecting but I am in no position to assure you that it won't.

But this creation of events narrative that you put forward runs up against other factors that leads me to think that all of what is happening now is not directly related to what Hillary Clinton has decided to do or not.

In the end, we are not talking about this particular candidate in a particular contest but the nature of our world and what we should be doing in it.

unresponsive non sequitur

ocean-kat — Sat, 23 Jul 2016 02:37:15 +0000

In reply to No matter how satisfying and

unresponsive non sequitur

Fine, you said it - "it's

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 23 Jul 2016 02:30:36 +0000

In reply to No matter how satisfying and

Fine, you said it - "it's Hillary's fault" as always, entiendo - next topic?

No matter how satisfying and

HSG — Sat, 23 Jul 2016 02:21:25 +0000

In reply to Hal, do you have any

No matter how satisfying and accurate it may be to rip Trump from end to end, his wholly unexpected success cannot be understood without some reference to the current political and environmental climate which Hillary Clinton is somewhat responsible for creating.

I should have put a snark tag

Peter — Sat, 23 Jul 2016 01:50:10 +0000

In reply to What does equity have to do

I should have put a snark tag after that comment. The problem is that their isn't much good to discuss about either of these candidates and there is about three months more of this hysteria, look at HP and what I see as political cannibalism to endure before the election and then about another three months before the real fireworks begin. Living in interesting times, indeed.