dagblog - Comments for ""The married women of Bucks County""

Just happened on my last blog

Oxy Mora — Thu, 10 Nov 2016 04:28:11 +0000

In reply to "The married women of Bucks County"

Just happened on my last blog here.

Guess there was no gap, people want change, any change.

Clinton bounces in new PPP

Oxy Mora — Sun, 31 Jul 2016 14:43:54 +0000

In reply to "The married women of Bucks County"

aClinton bounces in new PPP poll taken entirely after both conventions. Even with disaffected Democrats she leads blowhard by 5 points. Her favorably improved by 9 points.

One of my questions above was, in the final analysis, is the race that much different from Obama's two elections. According to PPP:

"we've been saying that this race is shaping up pretty similarly both nationally and at the state level to the margins Obama won in 2012---not a landslide, but a solid victory. The undecided pool leans Democratic and they like Obama but don't like Clinton,....a lot of these are Sanders voters... If (they can be won over)..., the margin improves from 5 to 8 and moves into landslide territory."

It seems to me that if the undecided Sanders voters can help create a landslide we may in fact get free tuition, single payer and gun control.

Clinton loves Vermont and Cabot Cheese.

74% of Trump voters think HRC should be in jail, and only 12% say no. Doesn't leave much hope of attracting Trump voters.

Many thanks to the women of Bucks county. I love Philadelphia cream cheese and white bread sandwiches.

Clinton bounces in new PPP

Oxy Mora — Sun, 31 Jul 2016 14:21:48 +0000

In reply to "The married women of Bucks County"

Duplicate.

Oh jeez, again you're linking

ocean-kat — Sat, 30 Jul 2016 19:27:42 +0000

In reply to I haven't read "Hard Choices"

Oh jeez, again you're linking Flournoy to Hillary as evidence that she is more hawkish than Obama. When in fact there is much more evidence to link Flournoy to Obama Look up the last time we discussed this if you want to see my arguments. But this article goes farther. It links Panetta to Hillary as evidence that she is more hawkish than Obama. When, again, Panetta is much more closely linked to Obama who made him his CIA director and was apparently so happy with his performance he made him his SoD. Your evidence more closely suggests a continuation of Obama's policies than a more hawkish posture. And yes, I did read Hard Choices.

I have two problems with your arguments. First you engage in much black white thinking. As if there is no grey between isolationism and neo-con. As if neo-con and responsibility to protect are equally hawkish and pursue the same goals.

Second you treat every hawkish impulse of the Obama administration as the influence of Hillary and every act of restraint of the Obama administration as divorced from Hillary. That's a superficial analysis that reflects your dislike of Hillary more than anything else. All major policy statements from a SoS are vetted by the president. SoS's are not rogue actors. SoS's can influence and advise but in the end they are part of the team and reflect the policies as decided by the president. The farther back one goes the more clear the differences within the team become. For example looking at Bosnia one can get a clearer picture of the differences of opinion between the major actors than looking at more recent decision like Lybia or Honduras. Major actors speak more openly about the internal debate as the years go by.

I haven't read "Hard Choices"

A Guy Called LULU — Sat, 30 Jul 2016 16:24:15 +0000

In reply to I don't keep a list of links

I haven't read "Hard Choices" [have you] and probably won't, but I have seen so many references to it along with quotes that I have a fair idea of what she says in it. Significantly, in the latest paperback addition she doesn't say anything about Honduras. Maybe what she did there slipped her mind but my guess is that she is hoping it has slipped our minds.

This isn't long form, more of a quick rundown of Hillary's hawkish ness and with evidence to guide speculation. I think the author has credibility. I know that concluding that Hillary is a hawk does not turn her off to many people. Many, blindly I think, admire and root for kick-ass treatment of the rest of the world. U.S.A. U.S.A. U.S.A.

I don't keep a list of links

ocean-kat — Sat, 30 Jul 2016 05:27:09 +0000

In reply to Would you provide a

I don't keep a list of links of articles I read. There was an interesting and pretty detailed article looking at Hillary's input to Obama during the Lybia campaign, her reasoning as to why she responded as she did to the French request for help. I couldn't find the link atm. I think I or someone else here linked that article a couple of months ago. But if you're serious about know her foreign policy beliefs she wrote a book, Hard Choices. You may disagree with her analysis of the situations she describes, the actions she chose, and her analysis of the outcome but her reasoning for those decisions are there.

Another insult. Let's stop

ocean-kat — Sat, 30 Jul 2016 03:35:12 +0000

In reply to You're probably safer to

Another insult. Let's stop pretending. Insults are all you bring to dagblog.

You're probably safer to

Peter — Sat, 30 Jul 2016 03:28:16 +0000

In reply to Peter,thanks but I'm not

You're probably safer to remain a low-information voter with no regrets, but you did ask.

Hey, Mr. Day. We've got to

Oxy Mora — Sat, 30 Jul 2016 00:30:11 +0000

In reply to Well done Oxy, as usual.

Hey, Mr. Day. We've got to pull together.

Well, shit, around here I'm a low information voter. Don't like to be so uninformed.

Can't even say whether we should try to clean up the mess in Syria or just get the hell out. Is free tuition feasible?---seems to me if you put it in the context of "we rise together", Bucks county cream cheese and white bread sandwiches will go for it.

Hillary got the opponent she wanted. Maybe she and the rest of us will regret it.

Or blowhard might be so repulsive that a mini-coalition of R's and D's is possible on tuition and gun control. Just don't know.

You are the best, Day.

Well done Oxy, as usual.

Richard Day — Sat, 30 Jul 2016 00:14:50 +0000

In reply to "The married women of Bucks County"

Well done Oxy, as usual.

I love Bernie.

I mean, he got so goddamn mad at some time in his career that he said:

FUCK IT, I'M A SOCIALIST. HAHAHAHAH

He is and was never a mad man.

But Hillary.

I mean Hillary experienced so much more as far as her career.

I love Hillary.

This woman is about to break historical bounds.

She will 'use' Bernie in her next administration.

Right now there is another choice:

AN ILL READ 'BILLIONAIRE' (ALTHOUGH i AM NOT SURE ABOUT THIS MONIKER) VS.

A WELL EDUCATED AND EXPERIENCED POLITICIAN FOR DECADES.

I can't play Anticipation again. hahahahaha

Too much, too soon.

We do not get seven choices in this country.

That is not how the 'system' works.

But if there were a hundred choices, I would choose Hillary for so many reasons.

So let us come together to defeat the ogre of the forest.