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I am late, but only a day.

Richard Day — Mon, 01 Aug 2016 16:56:44 +0000

I am late, but only a day.

I hereby render unto Peracles the Dayly Line of the Day Award for this here Dagblog Site, given to all of him from all of me for this gem:

But that's only one part of the story. Timing is everything. And as they say, a lie can travel the world while the truth is still putting its sneakers on. Given a dump at the right time, there'd be no way to properly contest the information, and the field would be tilted towards the infiltrators. And that's what they did.

Daily Beast explores Assange

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 01 Aug 2016 07:55:56 +0000

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Daily Beast explores Assange-Russian connection a bit more:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/01/julian-assange-donald-t...

Looks like a bit of thumb on the scale when it comes to "transparency" as well as responsibility.

Exactly. Trump thinks he has

NCD — Mon, 01 Aug 2016 00:51:11 +0000

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Exactly. Trump thinks he has a soul mate, Putin likely very accurately considers Trump as easily manipulated as a marionette.

They may be soul-mates in

CVille Dem — Mon, 01 Aug 2016 00:27:05 +0000

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They may be soul-mates in your assessment, but I think Putin would be insulted with that conclusion. He is playing Donald because he is so easy to play. The Donald is like a pre-adolescent whose parents have a swimming pool, and he wants Putin (the senior) to like him, so he tells him he can have a pool party. What Trump doesn't know is that his parents are watching.

Putin and Trump are soul

NCD — Sun, 31 Jul 2016 23:05:42 +0000

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Putin and Trump are soul mates. This is not three-dimensional chess. Yes Trump is impulsive, he is also ignorant, dismissive of treaties, NATO, egocentric and arrogant-he never accepts responsibility nor does he take advice. We have learned that from his campaign.

He would put American decision making into gridlock or chaos while Putin's tanks roll into the Baltic states or beyond. Putin released the emails to hurt Hillary and divide the Democrats. It's that simple.

I was looking at Slate's

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 31 Jul 2016 19:20:19 +0000

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I was looking at Slate's tying him to Roger Stone, Reagan's Philadelphia, Mississippi speech, et al. Anti-establishment? These guys look like the heart of the Republican establishment for the last 40 years.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/04/paul_ma...

You might want to link to

Oxy Mora — Sun, 31 Jul 2016 19:12:30 +0000

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You might want to link to Trump/Stefanopulous interview highlighted on DK

Yeah, Guardian articles are

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 31 Jul 2016 19:02:35 +0000

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Yeah, Guardian articles are intriguing - Manafort seems good at getting retainers - does he really rehabilitate anyone? you'd guess they believe in him, which is scary with Trump.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/31/donald-trump-paul-manafo...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/30/donald-trump-paul-manafo...

http://freebeacon.com/issues/lawsuit-trump-aide-ukraine/ - again smoothing over Trump & colleagues, including Yanukovych. A lot of money funneled through Manafort.

I forgot to mention the Panama Papers hack, another dump that was less than selective in who it smeared with an overall guilt-by-association. It was rather unclear who actually did what and bore further scrutiny, vs. those just mentioned...

Thanks Peracles for a fine

Oxy Mora — Sun, 31 Jul 2016 17:56:39 +0000

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Thanks Peracles for a fine post.

IMO, the Russians initiated the hack of the DNC. And Clinton more or less signed on to this explanation on Fox News.

I'd like to test the theory that Putin would rather have Clinton as an adversary than Trump, and knew that Trump would fumble the ball.(several sources say the initial hack left telltale clues)

Trump is a crap shoot as far as Putin is concerned. He's a 50/50 bet to act rationally. Trump could easily flip if he were ever in step with Republicans in Congress. He's impulsive and has never operated within a diplomatic/military world of real consequences. Putin knows this.

Clinton, however, is more likely to be restrained but have a line in the sand. I think this works far more to the advantage of Putin, who can play games around the edges without being nuked.

Just spit ballin'.

I hope you will extend your fine writing to focus on the Paul Monafort/Ukraine/R oligarch triad and how it relates to Trump. The Guardian has had several articles on this but so far our kiddy press hasn't delved into it.

It's disturbing to see conventions like not asking a foreign power to spy on your opponent be broken without a serious press attempt to discuss the implications. That in itself helps Putin undermine our country and gives him "intel" on us for future ploys of his.

Well that was cool - my guess

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 31 Jul 2016 17:38:35 +0000

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Well that was cool - my guess that the hack against VAN from back in December where Sanders ended up with Hillary data might be tied to the GRU or Guccifer or... gets a few iotas of support:

https://www.emptywheel.net/2016/07/31/was-computer-network-analytics-dat...

plus EmptyWheel adds more meat to the DNC hacks:

https://www.emptywheel.net/2016/07/29/two-three-four-data-points-on-dnc-...