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Thanks. Subject for another

Flavius — Tue, 09 Aug 2016 13:55:44 +0000

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Thanks. Subject for another blog at some point.

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oldenGoldenDecoy — Mon, 08 Aug 2016 06:30:59 +0000

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Flavius ...

This may help you...

nij.gov/topics/corrections/recidivism

Bureau of Justice Statistics studies have found high rates of recidivism among released prisoners. One study tracked 404,638 prisoners in 30 states after their release from prison in 2005.[1] The researchers found that:

Within three years of release, about two-thirds (67.8 percent) of released prisoners were rearrested.

Within five years of release, about three-quarters (76.6 percent) of released prisoners were rearrested.

Of those prisoners who were rearrested, more than half (56.7 percent) were arrested by the end of the first year.

Property offenders were the most likely to be rearrested, with 82.1 percent of released property offenders arrested for a new crime compared with 76.9 percent of drug offenders, 73.6 percent of public order offenders and 71.3 percent of violent offenders.

~OGD~

I was thinking of Leslie van

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 08 Aug 2016 05:09:33 +0000

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I was thinking of Leslie van Houten.

Most released prisoners

Flavius — Mon, 08 Aug 2016 04:58:16 +0000

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Most released prisoners are rearrested in the next 3 years, The longer they have served before release, the lower the odds of that.

I'd be interested in learning what happens in,say, years 4 to 10. My guess: that the longer time served the lower the rate of rearrestment after year 3.

Peracles ...

oldenGoldenDecoy — Mon, 08 Aug 2016 01:40:39 +0000

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Peracles ...

There is no redemption in our penal system.

He pretty much covered that...

"My father is the jailhouse. My father is your system. . . I am only what you made me. I am only a reflection of you. I have ate out of your garbage cans to stay out of jail. I have wore your second-hand clothes... I have done my best to get along in your world and now you want to kill me, and I look at you, and then I say to myself, You want to kill me? Ha! I'm already dead, have been all my life. I've spent twenty-three years in tombs that you built."

At the time of the murders he had spent 23+ years of his 34 years in the joint. And not that it makes it right what he's done in life, the early years are quite telling. Between the ages of 13 and 19 he spent 4+ years in correctional facilities such as Washington, D.C.'s National Training School for Boys, Natural Bridge Honor Camp, the Federal Reformatory, Petersburg, VA, the Federal Reformatory at Chillicothe, OH.

~OGD~

Ha, didn't need to. Meanwhile

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 07 Aug 2016 11:23:10 +0000

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Ha, didn't need to. Meanwhile they denied the last of the clan parole a month ago yet again despite stellar behavior and complete remorse for 45 years. There is no redemption in our penal system. Or basically, once you're a star you're always a star.

Reminds me of Vanzetti.

Flavius — Sun, 07 Aug 2016 06:59:23 +0000

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Reminds me of Vanzetti.

Eighteen years before McVeigh

oldenGoldenDecoy — Sun, 07 Aug 2016 06:41:18 +0000

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Eighteen years before McVeigh's letter...

"I never went to school, so I never growed up to read and write too good, so I have stayed in jail and I have stayed stupid, and I have stayed a child while I have watched your world grow up, and then I look at the things that you do and I don't understand. You eat meat and you kill things that are better than you are, and then you say how bad, and even killers, your children are. You made your children what they are. These children that come at you with knives. They are your children. You taught them. I didn't teach them." --snip-- I was working at cleaning up my house, something that Nixon should have been doing. He should have been on the side of the road, picking up his children, but he wasn't. He was in the White House, sending them off to war. I don't understand you, but I don't try. I don't try to judge nobody. I know that the only person I can judge is me . . . But I know this: that in your hearts and your own souls, you are as much responsible for the Vietnam war as I am for killing these people. . . .

Put that in your search engines...

~OGD~

But what does Maud Gonne

Flavius — Sun, 07 Aug 2016 00:48:27 +0000

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But what does Maud Gonne think?

My friend Cal had a friend

Flavius — Sun, 07 Aug 2016 00:39:16 +0000

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My friend Cal had a friend on the next farm who tried to make ends meet by substituting a little straw in old dobbins hay.

Worked a treat. Saved money. He added more straw.

Same story.

Just when he got the animal to go completely on a straw diet the durn thing died.

We can exchange anecdotes as long any one will listen but something caused McVegh go write his 1992 letter to the Oneonta News , or whatever. And I keep hearing it said that below some income level (90% ?) living standards have slipped since Reagan.

Cal also used to say that you can ask people to stand still, pretty much forever. But you can't ask them to fall back.

Did that cause McVegh to turn into non jihadi terrorist after his letter to the editor? I don't think so and that's off the thread. But

o if an increasingly high percentage of National Income goes to the top 10%.

o And Carter's 70% marginal rate was cut by RR to 28%

o And we reduced income from tariffs

o without increasing income from export related employment.

On the back of an envelope seems to me there must have been a lot more straw in somebody's feed bag. Maybe ours?

Could Keynes have been right: "the thing about Protection is, it does the trick" ? And "let all goods be homespun.?"

Just asking.