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And let's be clear, Peter -

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 16 Aug 2016 03:23:03 +0000

And let's be clear, Peter - if we didnt help overthrow Qaddafi (in a coalition in tandem with other western countries with local rebels leading), you'd be complaining of us propping up a dictator Kissinger realpolitik style. If we'd captured Qaddafi instead of the rebels, you'd complain about our show trial, and if we'd scotted him off to retirement in a neutral country, you'd complain about the lack of justice when it involves American "friends". There's no end to ways you can keep complaining without offering a single actual step towards solution or tamping down crises. Yes, they happen all the time, and if we're not in there h elping and screwing some things up, someone else will be anyway, often to worse results.

We didnt interfere in the

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 15 Aug 2016 20:15:57 +0000

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We didnt interfere in the Congo Civil War of 1998-2003/3 that killed 5.4 million. We didnt interfere in the 20 year Sudanese Civil War that killed 2 million (following the previous 20 year civil war that killed 400,000), nor the South Sudanese Civil War that killed up to 300,000 more. We famously didnt interfere in the Rwandan massacre where the Hutus killed 600,000 Tutsis, nor the previous year's massacre in Burundi where the Tutsis killed 800,000 Hutus. We didnt interfere except to send aid in the Ethiopian famine and Civil War that killed another 400,000 - half or so from political stupidity. We didnt interfere in the killings in Nigeria, nor the massacres in Sierra Leone, Ivory Coast and Liberia. In short, there are so many places we didnt interfere in Africa yet the body counts of millions and millions is tons higher than the deaths from mistakes and rebel actions we largely couldnt contain in Libya. (and it was Britain responsible for Kenya atrocities, Belgium responsible for earlier Congo atrocities, and France responsible for 1 million Algerians dead on the way to independence.)

You simply dont know what you're talking about, so you slather on lots of innuendo over the barest minimum of facts, with a foregone conclusion in every case. Simply pathetic, useless to even debate. I didnt much like helping overthrow Qaddafi and thought it would set a bad precedent, but I at least understand the background and the regional situation and history to not just throw stupid charges on top of it. Total casualties are in the range of 10-20,000, not the typical African hundreds of housands or millions dead, many more displaced. Pick up a Wikipedia and read it for once - it ain't that tough.

There was little stomach for

rmrd0000 — Mon, 15 Aug 2016 18:29:56 +0000

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There was little stomach for going into Rwanda because of the US experience in Somalia. Somalia began as a humanitarian effort. It expanded into nation building. Black Hawk Down with desecration of soldiers was the end result.Would you have advised no humanitarian support in Somalia? Would you have advised no response to Islamist terrorists? How would Peter have advised the President on Somalia and then Rwanda?

Complaining and concern

Peter — Mon, 15 Aug 2016 16:56:05 +0000

In reply to Yes, and many more civilians

Complaining and concern trolling are Clintonite traits, I attack root causes of our malaise which can often be traced back to US exceptionalists/hegemonic policies that your R2P whining tries to cover up and transfer blame onto the less exceptional Other.. Instead of 'doing nothing' which conveniently ignores our history of interference in Africa and elsewhere, you support more killing to stop the killing our earlier policies often triggered and that is sold as progressive thought!

I also look at results not just the rhetoric/whining used to sell policies such as Liberal Intervention and the Libya bloodbath showed clearly our policies are not about saving civilians or ending conflict but reflect our more mundane/mercantile goals of installing US satraps and market penetration. Libya didn't work out as planned so Bloody Hillary couldn't us it as election fodder and even had to remove references to it from her book.

Yes, and many more civilians

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 14 Aug 2016 05:16:53 +0000

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Yes, and many more civilians died in Rwanda by doing nothing, and many civilians died in Syria despite helping rebels and not knowing which side of bastards to back - Russian/Syrian, anti-government rebels, crazed fundamentalist rebels, ISIS, Turkey bombing the Kurds instead of ISIS, or Kurds???? You don't have any answers, and this one is best for you as you get to complain about the US/exploitive regime no matter what in this fucked up situation.

...egocentric.

NCD — Sun, 14 Aug 2016 00:54:11 +0000

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...egocentric...conceited, universal contempt a wonder to behold.

Huh?

CVille Dem — Sat, 13 Aug 2016 22:42:23 +0000

In reply to Substitute for Tigger...

Huh?

Substitute for Tigger...

NCD — Sat, 13 Aug 2016 22:40:18 +0000

In reply to You seem to be as confused

Substitute....a Peters a wonderful thing...?

The reasons i dislike Trump

CVille Dem — Sat, 13 Aug 2016 21:49:54 +0000

In reply to You seem to be as confused

The reasons i dislike Trump are...

I know I shouldn't ask this, but...is there anyone on Planet Earth that you do like? Is there anyone who isn't beneath your contempt? I really am curious.

I don't know what confusion

moat — Sat, 13 Aug 2016 19:35:08 +0000

In reply to You seem to be as confused

I don't know what confusion about equal protection you are referring to. All I meant was that making special provisions to deal with Muslims differently in this country is a violation of the principle. You say as much youself in regards to your description of Obama's actions in that regard. The argument that Trump could no worse is not a disagreement of any kind.

I take your point that the ICC is not consistent in who it goes after. It should be noted that the matter of jurisdiction is not just about who signed the Rome accords. Pinochet was arrested in London, not Chile. The matter of "universal jurisdiction" is one of those things they are working on and could unravel the whole enterprise if not figured out. It is true the ICC does not have the power to remove him from the United States. But it is also true that Trump proposed is a war crime.

When I listened to Trumps "rhetorical threat", it seemed to me like he was threatening actual people. The people who cheered afterwards seemed to be cheering because he was threatening actual people. I don't know how may of his "supporters" share your temporizing interpretation of the speech. I wonder if there is a way to find out.

I also didn't mean to imply the UN Resolution had the force of punishable law but since we are signatory to it, the use of religious identity to filter people allowed in the country is an example of a "member state" acting in violation of that principle.