dagblog - Comments for "Horse Race? Or Hindenburg?" http://dagblog.com/politics/horse-race-or-hindenburg-21011 Comments for "Horse Race? Or Hindenburg?" en If you are undecided, you are http://dagblog.com/comment/227624#comment-227624 <a id="comment-227624"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/227623#comment-227623">I am dying to hear him &quot;reach</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>If you are undecided, you are stupid. OGD had a post noting that Trump was shaking the tree to see which nuts would fall out. We now know that Dr, Drew, a celebrity analyst, is a nitwit who buys into the Hillary is brain-damaged meme. Kellyanne Conway is described as a person who truly wants the GOP to reach out to black voters. Yet she has no problem attaching herself to racists Trump and Bannon. She somehow believes the stench will not cling to her. Paul Ryan is another Republican who "reaches out" to the black community. Robert Woodson, a black Conservative, is a common traveling companion. Now that Ryan has supported Trump, Woodson has invited scrutiny of his activities. Woodson runs the Center for Neighborhood Enterprise, a charity that promotes private spending on poverty programs. The organization gets about $4 million annually. Sixty-percent of that money is from US government grants. The organization says that it spends 95% of its income on individuals in poverty. This is a neat trick since Woodson pockets $250K a year as the organization's director. He gets 6% of the funds taken in, leaving 94% for paperclips, staff, and fighting poverty. The take home message is that when you scratch the surface, a significant amount of what a Republican/ Conservative says is a lie.</p> <p><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/2/13/1277281/-The-Way-Wingnuttia-Works-Bob-Woodson-Welfare-Recipient">http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/2/13/1277281/-The-Way-Wingnuttia-Work...</a></p> <p>Edit to add:</p> <p>Here is an excellent takedown of Dr. Drew Pinsky's medical misinformation regarding Hillary</p> <p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/americas-patient-community-gravely-concerned-about_us_57b647d5e4b07d22cc374585?section=&amp;">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/americas-patient-community-gravely-c...</a></p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Fri, 19 Aug 2016 16:20:22 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 227624 at http://dagblog.com LULU you will believe what http://dagblog.com/comment/227628#comment-227628 <a id="comment-227628"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/227627#comment-227627"> </a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>LULU you will believe what you want to believe. The Democrats hacked themselves. The only proof would come from Putin's mouth , which will never happen. The US government will go into great detail on how they tracked things to the Russians. </p> <p>I leave you with this from Crowdstrike</p> <p><a href="https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/bears-midst-intrusion-democratic-national-committee/">https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/bears-midst-intrusion-democratic-nation...</a></p> <p>Edit to add:</p> <p>Two other security firms agreed with Crowdstrike's findings</p> <p><a href="https://www.wired.com/2016/07/heres-know-russia-dnc-hack/">https://www.wired.com/2016/07/heres-know-russia-dnc-hack/</a></p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Fri, 19 Aug 2016 16:07:01 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 227628 at http://dagblog.com   http://dagblog.com/comment/227627#comment-227627 <a id="comment-227627"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/227626#comment-227626">I see your Salon article and</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p> <p>Here is the first line of your link with my emphasis added.</p> <blockquote> <p>Two former employees of the National Security Agency—including exiled whistleblower Edward Snowden—<u><strong>are speculating </strong></u>that Monday's <a href="http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/08/group-claims-to-hack-nsa-tied-hackers-posts-exploits-as-proof/">leak of what are now confirmed to be advanced hacking tools belonging to the US government</a> is connected to the separate high-profile hacks and subsequent leaks of two Democratic group</p> </blockquote> <p>Here is the concluding statement.</p> <blockquote> <p><em>As noted throughout this post, attributing Internet hacks is a difficult undertaking that's often prone to error. In the interest of keeping readers apprised of what informed security experts are saying, <strong><u>Ars is providing these opinions as is, with the reminder that they're pure speculation.</u></strong></em></p> </blockquote> <p>Here is a quote from the article I linked to.</p> <blockquote> <p>The press, with the, in my educated opinion, government-supervised New York Times conspicuously in the lead, builds sandcastles atop each of these events. Each is somewhere along the progression — no, regression — described in this space after the DNC’s mail hack: An unsubstantiated assertion with useful political implications is followed by intimations, then more adventurous insinuations. These devolve into a probability, then a belief. <u>After more innuendo, the blur between truth and suggestion is sufficient to state the still-unverified assertion as simple fact.</u></p> </blockquote> <p> </p> <p><br />  </p> </div></div></div> Fri, 19 Aug 2016 15:49:38 +0000 A Guy Called LULU comment 227627 at http://dagblog.com I see your Salon article and http://dagblog.com/comment/227626#comment-227626 <a id="comment-227626"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/227610#comment-227610">You believe that US</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I see your Salon article and I raise you one Eric Snowden who concludes that Russia was behind the DNC hack</p> <p><a href="http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/08/snowden-speculates-leak-of-nsa-spying-tools-is-tied-to-russian-dnc-hack/">http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/08/snowden-speculates-leak-of-ns...</a></p> </div></div></div> Fri, 19 Aug 2016 15:13:50 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 227626 at http://dagblog.com You believe that US http://dagblog.com/comment/227610#comment-227610 <a id="comment-227610"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/227609#comment-227609">You believe that US</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><blockquote> <p>You believe that US intelligence is lying to the public about Putin's role in the hacks?</p> </blockquote> <p>Is that a serious question? The following questions are serious. Do you believe that the US intelligence services would not lie, that they have not lied in the past, that government officials have not lied with claims about what “intelligence services” have either determined or suspect? My default starting position on belief in anything any politician says is to be agnostic. I do not automatically reject it in most cases but I certainly do not believe it just because they said it. Do you?  Also, do you notice that even the anonymous sources referred to in your link, sources which will never have to answer any questions about their credibility even though they are speaking openly to journalists that know who they are but won’t tell us who they are even if they are found sometime in the future to have been putting out complete bs, those sources do not claim anything as a fact but only what they claim to suspect and a theory why what they suspect might be true.</p> <p>Edited to add <a href="http://www.salon.com/2016/08/18/war-in-the-media-age-hysteria-over-trumps-supposed-russian-ties-made-headlines-but-the-story-is-remarkably-flimsy/?source=newsletter">this</a> link. </p> </div></div></div> Fri, 19 Aug 2016 14:55:00 +0000 A Guy Called LULU comment 227610 at http://dagblog.com Manafort just resigned http://dagblog.com/comment/227625#comment-227625 <a id="comment-227625"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/227612#comment-227612">I would suspect you need</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Manafort just resigned</p> <p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/paul-manafort-donald-trump_us_57b711aee4b0b51733a2dca3?axfx6obe2s7zaor">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/paul-manafort-donald-trump_us_57b711...</a></p> </div></div></div> Fri, 19 Aug 2016 14:35:05 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 227625 at http://dagblog.com I am dying to hear him "reach http://dagblog.com/comment/227623#comment-227623 <a id="comment-227623"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/227620#comment-227620">Roughly 80 days from the</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I am dying to hear him "reach out" to Mexicans and former POW's.  This guy has demonstrated so many behaviors he could probably also be diagnosed with Multiple Personality Disorder on top of the Narcissistic Personality Disorder that he obviously has.</p> <p>What I can hardly wrap my head around, is how so many people remain undecided in this election.  It really pains me that people who don't listen to her speeches and don't read her policy positions just buy into the "flawed Hillary" assumption that the media promotes.  </p> <p>I just saw a blurb from Glen Beck that he thinks Trump will lose and then begin a media empire, going into business with with the Brietbart group, ie:  to the right of FOX with the help of Ailes.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 19 Aug 2016 13:47:05 +0000 CVille Dem comment 227623 at http://dagblog.com Roughly 80 days from the http://dagblog.com/comment/227620#comment-227620 <a id="comment-227620"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/227603#comment-227603">I just got home and Trump is</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Roughly 80 days from the election, he sees himself losing and decides now is the time to reach out to African-Americans. Trump says that the Democrats take blacks for granted, yet he waits until one minute before midnight to take to the black community. He makes his outreach speech in the most segregated community near Milwaukee. Trump hires a known racist from the racist Breitbart site as campaign CEO. There was a serious discussion of the meaning of Trump's minority outreach hosted by Don Lemon on CNN. Trump is the same racist misogynist that he has always been. Everybody knows this fact whether they are white, black, Latino, Asian, etc.Everyone who supporters Trump will be labeled as supporting a racist. This includes Paul,Ryan and Mitch McConnell.</p> <p>Edit to add:</p> <p>Trump has rebooted multiple times. If Obama or Hillary had as many missteps as Trump, Don Lemon would have hosted a panel on the new lies being told by the Clinton campaign. </p> </div></div></div> Fri, 19 Aug 2016 12:39:17 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 227620 at http://dagblog.com I suspect they'll discover he http://dagblog.com/comment/227619#comment-227619 <a id="comment-227619"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/politics/horse-race-or-hindenburg-21011">Horse Race? Or Hindenburg?</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I suspect they'll discover he's a womanizer and turn on him like they did Bill Clinton. Just kidding. </p> </div></div></div> Fri, 19 Aug 2016 08:43:52 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 227619 at http://dagblog.com His "good advice" is from http://dagblog.com/comment/227616#comment-227616 <a id="comment-227616"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/227603#comment-227603">I just got home and Trump is</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>His "good advice" is from Breitbart.</p> <p>For years mainstream media has been cooperating with Drudge, making his vicious backcurrent palatable.</p> <p>Trump has run that agreement into the absurdity wall, so the Blitzers and Coopers can't just look the other way.</p> <p>So yeah, they'll need to call the Hindenburg the Hindenburg, or risk getting the Truman Show treatment when Jim Carrey starts waking up. Which will make them "partisan".</p> <p>What's more a question is how good the ratings will be over 2 1/2 months - will the public stay amused?</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 19 Aug 2016 06:50:19 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 227616 at http://dagblog.com