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Look wattree, I only know you

ocean-kat — Sat, 03 Sep 2016 21:20:33 +0000

In reply to Kat,

Look wattree, I only know you from what you write and you're the one who proclaimed you hate Bach because he doesn't know how to play a blues scale. I'm sure you know that's nonsense though you'll never admit it. It's pretty clear from your posts that you've never taken the time to listen to classical music and know almost nothing about it though you'll never admit that either. Unlike you, who created a whole thread just to convince Ramona that she should listen to jazz and would love it if she did, I think it's ok that you don't want to spend time learning about classical music. There's only so many hours in a day and more things to study than hours exist. One must pick and choose. I just wish you wouldn't pretend to knowledge you don't possess and pontificate on it. It's easy to do, I'll show you how.

I, oceankat, have almost never listened to rap and know almost nothing about it. I actually don't know if there's anything good or valuable in it.. There may be some interesting rhythms or clever valuable messages in rap. The lyrics might be great poetry or total crap. Never listened to it, don't know. That's why I've never commented on or criticized rap here at dag and I never will.

Reviews of young jazz artists

rmrd0000 — Sat, 03 Sep 2016 21:19:22 +0000

In reply to AN APPEAL TO PRESERVE BLACK CULTURE

Reviews of young jazz artists find a high percentage of black artists. Black are continuing to innovate in jazz. Some may consider their efforts lacking. That comes down to personal taste.

http://theculturetrip.com/north-america/usa/articles/12-young-american-j...

Blacks represent 13.2% of the population if 15-20% of attendees at jazz concerts are black, blacks are over-represented in jazz concerts.

I had not heard that group

moat — Sat, 03 Sep 2016 18:55:59 +0000

In reply to You know, Moat,

I had not heard that group before. Excellent ensemble playing.

I know that WSQ is not to everyone's taste but I am surprised to hear them called sappy. When I saw them live, they improvised and experimented with changes that required a lot from this listener to stay with them..

I was never partial to

ocean-kat — Sat, 03 Sep 2016 08:25:42 +0000

In reply to I don't like Bach or

I was never partial to Beethoven's fifth though for some reason it's become his most well know work. For many the only thing they know of him. I think my favorite Beethoven composition is his 7th symphony 2nd movement.

I don't like Bach or

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 03 Sep 2016 08:02:22 +0000

In reply to Kat,

I don't like Bach or listening long to most classical music - a few minutes of Beethoven suffices, but I recognize Bach as important for the music of Roland Kirk, Butthole Surfers, Bulgarian Women's Choir, David Bowie and Garbage. Even Leon Payne and The Weather Girls. Maybe I'm on Drugs.

You know, Moat,

Wattree — Sat, 03 Sep 2016 04:24:46 +0000

In reply to Thanks for the link.

You know, Moat,

Ironically, I've never like this group. They've too sappy, and they're not musically articulate enough. I like Supersax, headed up by the White cowboy, Med Flory. He used to always play bad guys in John Wayne movies and on television. But he's paid a bigger tribute to Bird than any Black person alive. It's beautiful, but it's also sad.It's beautiful that this White guy cared enough about Black culture to make the effort to tackle task, but it's sad that Black people didn't think to do it. He put Supersax together and all they did was played Charlie Parker solos, note for note. I have everything they've ever done (with the exception of what my beautifully scoundrelous father stole from me before he died). That's one of the things that I admire about the White culture. They're willing to make the effort to do things like that. Black musicians had nearly 20 years to do it, but they never did. But Med Flory took the time to remind an entire generation of Black people of who Charlie Parker was, and that's the kind of thing I'm trying to get Black people to open their eyes to in this piece.
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Okay moat,

Wattree — Sat, 03 Sep 2016 03:37:52 +0000

In reply to You keep putting words in my

Okay moat,

Lets drop it. I'm sorry if I misinterpreted what you said, because I know better than anybody how it feels to be misunderstood.

You keep putting words in my

moat — Sat, 03 Sep 2016 01:13:55 +0000

In reply to Moat,

You keep putting in my mouth the proposition that says Black people should not support their own culture. After repeated attempts to correct that perception, I accept that I am just another White guy for you. Very well then.

This White person has many limitations and cannot claim to know what is best for everybody White or Not. But for what its worth, I grew up in a family that was taught to resist the prejudices that shaped the community around us. My parents paid a price for that. I don't make a claim of equivalence in regards to anybody else's suffering but their decision is a big part of my life experience. So that is my culture and I try to preserve it. Just like you strive to preserve yours.

I don't live in your White and Black world. My only contention is that you don't either.

Michael,

Wattree — Sat, 03 Sep 2016 01:00:10 +0000

In reply to Eric, TOS warning for

Michael,

I reviewed your warning and considered it valid. My comment WAS rather personal, and I want to apologize about that. But in the future, please be just as vigilant with comments made toward me. They seem to go completely unnoticed.

Moat,

Wattree — Sat, 03 Sep 2016 00:46:13 +0000

In reply to Re read my own comment? After

Moat,

You're looking at reality from a purely White perspective. That's one of the biggest problems that we have in this country. You may have the purest motives, but you've been conditioned to see the world through White eyes, and the world isn't white, as American demographics are about to show - and probably to your complete shock. But the establishment is 20 years ahead of you - and unfortunately, with the help of much of a clueless Black electorate - they're trying their very best to have your back. That's what the coming election is about, and why the two nominees are two of the most hated candidates in American history, and why Black people are being shot down like dogs in the street. That's also why I've been fighting so hard over having to choose between cyanide and strychnine. While my grandchildren are probably going to be secure and solidly middle class just like my children, nevertheless, I don't want them to have to live in a world that is viewed through exclusively White eyes, because from what I've drawn from your comment, regardless to how well meaning, White eyes are blind to anything other than a White view of reality. Whether or not Black people should support their culture shouldn't even be a debate. That's not a radical concept.