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I thought the "slippery slope

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 02 Oct 2016 19:42:46 +0000

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I thought the "slippery slope" conjecture was unfortunat in pretending its only a future problem. It sets up Benghazi-like fishin expeditions right away from what I see, with a lot of leeway for various activist judges.

Libya had direct obvious connections / orders for Lockerbie and the Berlin disco bombing.

Pinochet is a bit more complex (the level of Allende's courting Moscow was alarming and the left was assassinating gov security forces before Allende's election) and we saw one aspect of how Allende was detained, but not murderers of hundreds of thousands in Cambodia, Congo, Sudan, Indonesia, Guatemala, Vietnam, Yugoslavia, etc. But why shouldn't then an Argentinian or Chileno be able to run FOIAs thru our government to find redress? Guatemala? Nicaragua? Panama?

France killed 1 million on their way out of Algeria. They can all travel with no worry of repercussions or detainment. Yeah, someone I Saudi Arabia helped terrorist, but our triggerr-happy racism will push Muslims to the front of the line, while allies more like us will get a pass.

That is well done. It doesn

Michael Maiello — Sat, 01 Oct 2016 02:19:38 +0000

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That is well done. It doesn't convince me, though, and even this article admits that JASTA by itself doesn't really threaten existing norms, it just starts us down a slippery slope. Slippery slope arguments tend to read fine when written out but not to be reflected in the real world.

The Obama administration's

ocean-kat — Fri, 30 Sep 2016 22:33:05 +0000

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The Obama administration's case against the 9/11 bill, explained for Congress (and you)

The idea that there's enough

Michael Maiello — Fri, 30 Sep 2016 18:31:27 +0000

In reply to The tinfoil hat you are

The idea that there's enough smoke around this issue to make it worthy of having a judge decide if a further trial is warranted is hardly the stuff of tinfoil hat conspiracy theories, Peter.

The tinfoil hat you are

Peter — Fri, 30 Sep 2016 17:10:58 +0000

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The tinfoil hat you are wearing clashes with your royal wrestler robes and repeating BS unproven conspiracy theories about the House of Saud won't make them true or even believable. There are many good logical reasons to attack the behavior of the HoS but this isn't one of them.

What this bill is is a display of the self serving political parasites who run our government, Democrat and Republican alike. It is a blatant and moronic sideshow of opportunism and these dimwits are already trying to fix their FU.

I would love to see the US held responsible for the death and destruction our foreign and economic policies inflicts on much of the world so perhaps some good will come from this political gamesmanship.

If anyone who was not a Saudi

Michael Maiello — Fri, 30 Sep 2016 12:25:17 +0000

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If anyone who was not a Saudi royal had as many ties to the 9/11 attackers as the Saudi rulers do, a lawsuit would seem justified, even if the plaintiffs ultimately lost. Let the courts work this out. No reason to treat people as special just because they were born royal.

Obama Derangement Syndrome

rmrd0000 — Fri, 30 Sep 2016 12:10:09 +0000

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Obama Derangement Syndrome led the Republicans to pass a bill that was not well thought out. They realize their error and are now working to change the bill.

Who do Republicans blame for "forcing" them to pass an irrational bill? President Obama.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/congress-now-blaming-obama-for-embar...

This bill seems to be the

Peter — Fri, 30 Sep 2016 06:24:57 +0000

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This bill seems to be the worst kind of grandstanding election year Kabuki designed to make points with the rubes but accomplish nothing.

There has been no direct link proving any involvement by the House of Saud or its ranking government officials in the planning, financing or execution of 9/11. The recently released classified pages of the 9/11 report did highlight two embarressing facts, that an embassy employee apparently assisted some of the hyjackers and that the wife of one member of the HOS did make a contribution to a charity that apparently sent money to some of the hyjackers but these are not links showing any direct government/HOS involvement in the attacks.

OBL and al Qaeda were/are mortal enemies of the House of Saud and its government although they were allied in the Afghan conflict but that ended in the early '90s when OBL was stripped of his Saudi citizenship and most of AQ was run out of the country. I'm sure that the AQ leadership is enjoying this further embarressment and harassment of the House of Saud.

I'm not a supporter of the House of Saud which is a tiny minority in the large Saudi population and some Saudis did aid AQ and also want to bring down the HOS but you can't hold some small ruling group responsible for what their enemies did and continue to do.

I'm uncomfortable to take

Flavius — Fri, 30 Sep 2016 02:42:13 +0000

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I'm not thrilled to be taking this position but I agree with Obama.

Partly for the reasons you correctly recite:"international diplomacy" collapsing into a "tizzy of global law suits" and the "long way from damages being awarded". The senate and house have awarded themselves some easy popularity by providing the families with an illusory benefit: a chance to waste time and money with highly improbable chance of success and highly probable chance of causing the country to incur the difficulties which you, again correctly, recite.

Apart from that I admit to a general bias against turning over to do- it- yourself initiatives things

that ,to have any chance of success , should be done by the government .Probably not a popular position here at Dagblog I expect.