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Michael, remember how Obama

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 12 Nov 2016 07:51:19 +0000

In reply to I'm more pessimistic than you

Michael, remember how Obama rolled up all the splinter groups under him after election day? Expect the same and worse under Trump. He may not command loyalty or charm, but they all (almost) came crawling back to him before election day. And America, at least the right, loves what they perceive as a winner, so his "charm" will be considerably improved.

Update: or with the infighting beginning, maybe it won't be as clean, maybe it will.

A gem I didn't realize earlier about Jared Kushner, Trump's son-in-law:

The other pointed out that Kushner’s father was prosecuted and convicted for tax evasion, illegal campaign donations and witness tampering by Christie during his time as a U.S. attorney.

“Jared doesn’t like Christie,” the person said. “He’s always held that against Christie.”

Should have watched more "Sopranos" - I'm out of my depth now. But the apple don't fall far from the apple tree, it seems.

BTW, CNN hiring Lewandowski as an analyst was cynical media malpractice at its worst. Him going on and on election night as a partisan shill was simply disgusting. Now he'll at least be in the corrupt administration where he belongs.

I've been trying to distill

Oxy Mora — Fri, 11 Nov 2016 22:08:15 +0000

In reply to So, this is the first test.

I've been trying to distill this relationship between Trump and Ryan and the inescapable conclusion is that it's adversarial, the key word being "careerism". There is no way these young Republican Turks----Cruz, Ryan, Rublio, etc. are going to put up with Trump for more than four years. I'm not sure how it affects the Turks' decision-- making vis a vis everything That Trump will want. But it's a rift which Democrats might exploit.

As long as we're on Cole

Oxy Mora — Fri, 11 Nov 2016 21:44:52 +0000

In reply to No, Tea Party is dead. Under

As long as we're on Cole Porter, let me say that I get a kick out of you.

Michael Moore, who apparently is the only predictor with any feel of the pulse, says Trump will be impeached before his term is over. You may say that he's the top. But that's the problem, he's going to give the Congress a hundred good reasons to kick his ass out. I myself had been predicting such an outcome but forgot to mention it until now.

That's what Ryan is proposing

ocean-kat — Fri, 11 Nov 2016 19:51:44 +0000

In reply to So, this is the first test.

That's what Ryan is proposing according to an article I read just a couple of hours ago. He just said he wants the repeal of obamacare to include the privatization of medicare.

No, Tea Party is dead. Under

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 11 Nov 2016 19:37:22 +0000

In reply to This, I think, is the

No, Tea Party is dead. Under Trump it's simply what he says. Chairman Trump *is* the Party. Build a wall, don't build a wall - it's up to him. No one will be tallying election promises. He's the exceptional leader for an exceptional country. Anything goes.

So, this is the first test.

Michael Maiello — Fri, 11 Nov 2016 19:16:32 +0000

In reply to 2018 and repealing Afrocare

So, this is the first test. How Republican is our new president? Does he let Paul Ryan have his way with all the policy stuff? If so, forget just goodbye ACA, the government will truly get out of our Medicare. Along these lines, does Trump want two terms or an enduring Republican majority? If not, then he has no political third rails.

This, I think, is the

Oxy Mora — Fri, 11 Nov 2016 19:10:49 +0000

In reply to Lived in NJ and NYC (and VA

This, I think, is the conundrum the R's have, particularly Ryan, R house, and Trump.

If House doesn't repeal, 2018 will see tea party R's with even more rabid challengers than they themselves are.

If they do repeal, states lose on the economic front---as, well, states do need a healthy workforce.

Lived in NJ and NYC (and VA

NCD — Fri, 11 Nov 2016 18:35:18 +0000

In reply to Thanks NCD. An excellent

Lived in NJ and NYC (and VA AK AZ CA) not New England, NEnglanders seem much better educated than the Penn/Ohio/Kentuc/Tenn region. They got Bernie and Eliz Warren and voted out Ayotte or whatever her name was.

I just heard the Republican gov of AZ is pleading with Trump and his nujob right wing handlers to fix Obamacare not repeal it, and do so with Democrats. Seems 400,000 arizonans depend on it. The healthcare system could collapse here.

Thanks NCD. An excellent

Oxy Mora — Fri, 11 Nov 2016 17:55:57 +0000

In reply to Good blog good points.

Thanks NCD. An excellent reference.

So, the takeaway is that the election proves that whites in the North are, in the final sense, and perhaps for the first time, voting as an ethnic group---whereas in the South they have been doing so forever. This doesn't give me a lot of hope for the future, given increasing voter restrictions.

While I agree with the article, not sure it can be proven statistically---yet.

I have been thinking whether I want to continue living in Red Texas, given I ike my neighbors but hate what they have all just voted for. lAs far as I can see, Vermont is looking a lot more attractive than it did last week. Irony is that they are a white state.

Good blog good points.

NCD — Fri, 11 Nov 2016 04:17:48 +0000

In reply to I'm more pessimistic than you

Good blog good points.

Found this interesting and scary analysis at a progressive blog, on the Trump 'southification of the north'.

As I noted yesterday, rural whites in places like Pennsylvania voted for Trump in close to the same numbers that you typically see whites in states like Mississippi vote for the Republicans. Where Romney might have gotten 70% of their votes, Trump frequently got around 80%.

Back in 2013, I said it would be “criminal” for the Republican Party to deliberately racialize our politics in the North to the point that they resembled what we see in the South. I said that to accomplish this, the GOP would have to use “a strategy that will, by necessity, be more overtly racist than anything we’ve seen since segregation was outlawed.”

I didn’t say the strategy couldn’t or wouldn’t work.

It did work.