dagblog - Comments for "Scott , who?" http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/scott-who-21494 Comments for "Scott , who?" en Noted but I think I'll now http://dagblog.com/comment/231440#comment-231440 <a id="comment-231440"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/231422#comment-231422">Comment to Flavius reposted</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Noted but I think I'll now move on. </p> <p>Fl</p> </div></div></div> Tue, 13 Dec 2016 03:01:42 +0000 Flavius comment 231440 at http://dagblog.com Comment to Flavius reposted http://dagblog.com/comment/231422#comment-231422 <a id="comment-231422"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/scott-who-21494">Scott , who?</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Comment to Flavius reposted from above secondary to column width restriction:</p> <p>Flavius, Martin Luther King Jr. was considered fringe. He was labeled a Communist. He had a black, homosexual adviser. W.E.B. DuBois was fringe. Leaders of the women's suffrage movement and Women's Liberation were considered fringe. They all wore the badge of being fringe proudly. We are battling reactionaries. Trump sees no difference between the NAACP, the Urban League, or Black Lives Matter. If you fall for the reactionaries' ploy of la belting something fringe, you are chasing the diversion. The focus is on the issue, not the reactionary attempt at diversion. Martin Luther King was fringe and in the streets. He got results. In order to get your environmental issues addressed, you will need the fringe picketing sites of pollution. How can you look at a fringe movement like the Indian tribes in the Dakotas and not be proud? Those Brave souls and the military people who joined them are proudly fringe and they are heroes. The fringe is where the true change begins. How can you be missing current events? Your proposed capitulation to Trump is doomed to failure. They brave souls in the Dakotas did not bend over, they fought. The Tribes got results. The Tribes were the fringe. Take note and stop attacking the Left attack your enemy. As of January 20, 2017, it will be Donald Trump, not the fringe. Focus.</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 12 Dec 2016 22:39:09 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 231422 at http://dagblog.com Flavius, Martin Luther King http://dagblog.com/comment/231421#comment-231421 <a id="comment-231421"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/231419#comment-231419">Although.All the issues you</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Flavius, Martin Luther King Jr. was considered fringe. He was labeled a Communist. He had a black, homosexual adviser. W.E.B. DuBois was fringe. Leaders of the women's suffrage movement and Women's Liberation were considered fringe. We are battling reactionaries. Trump sees no difference between the NAACP, the Urban League, or Black Lives Matter. If you fall for the reactionaries' ploy of la belting something fringe, you are falling for the diversion. The focus is on the issue, not the reactionary attempt at diversion. Martin Luther King was fringe and in the streets. In order to get your environmental issues addressed, you may need the fringe picketing sites of pollution. How can you look at a fringe movement like the Indian tribes in the Dakotas and not be proud. Those Brave souls and the military people who joined them are proudly fringe and they are heroes. The fringe is where the true change begins. How can you be missing current events? Your proposed capitulation to Trump is doomed to failure. They brave souls in the Dakotas did not bend over, they fought.</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 12 Dec 2016 22:34:02 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 231421 at http://dagblog.com Although.All the issues you http://dagblog.com/comment/231419#comment-231419 <a id="comment-231419"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/231399#comment-231399">That is a dodge. You</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>.All the issues you raise are serious. I don't categorize any  as fringe . Although In  some cases  their proponents are,</p> <p>But when  Trump want's Schumer's  help on some issue or appointment, Chuck should  not settle for a little bit here, a little bit there. His object  should be a complete win on Global Warming</p> <p> </p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Mon, 12 Dec 2016 22:01:27 +0000 Flavius comment 231419 at http://dagblog.com We have a president-elect who http://dagblog.com/comment/231400#comment-231400 <a id="comment-231400"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/231399#comment-231399">That is a dodge. You</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>We have a president-elect who is a con man and a racist. John Bolton, a possible nominee for a slot at the State Dept, alleges that Obama hacked the DNC. Trump is appointing lunatics.Trump wants to destroy a multitude of Progressive programs, and your first instinct is to attack the Left. You need the people you are attacking because you need their support. Trump does not care about your concern for the environment. Ivanka doesn't care about the environment. You are ready to attack the Left in the belief that you will present a more acceptable picture to Trump. Trump does not deal in reality. You mean crap to him. If you criticize Beyoncé or Black Lives Matter, you will still be crap to him. He made his appointment to EPA because he does not think climate change is real. Wake up.</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 12 Dec 2016 15:04:17 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 231400 at http://dagblog.com That is a dodge. You http://dagblog.com/comment/231399#comment-231399 <a id="comment-231399"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/231398#comment-231398">Nothing what so ever is </a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>That is a dodge. You originally shoved opposing Sessions under the bus. You said having a bigot at DOJ was no big deal. You wanted full attention paid to your issue. The problem is that change often requires votes. If Sessions is part and parcel of organized voter suppression, you will have fewer allies at the state and local level to oppose legislation damaging the environment. Van Jones, among others, has been in the forefront of these issues. Opposing Sessions is not fringe. You dismissed the concept.</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 12 Dec 2016 13:41:29 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 231399 at http://dagblog.com Nothing what so ever is http://dagblog.com/comment/231398#comment-231398 <a id="comment-231398"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/231396#comment-231396">What is fringe about opposing</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Nothing what so ever is  wrong  or"fringe" about objecting to any of those. We should.</p> <p>What's  wrong, or at least dumb, is to  ally with objectors who  weaken our case.</p> <p>For example in 2004 thousands of us , tromped up Madison to protest W's  coming Iraq War.    The police, shivering ,channeled us to one  side of the pavement. Naturally we cooperated.  The point of the demonstration  obviously was to show  there were lots  who were on our side ; not  to maximize the inconvenience  of those who weren't .</p> <p>Many quietly  thanked  the cops and sympathized with their  being stuck out there. Some of whom  thanked us back   saying "It's my job". Or in a few cases : "If I weren't on duty, I'd be doing the same thing.". </p> <p>An enthusiastic young man started shouting " let's take over the whole street."  Spontaneously the shuffling crowd said  "shush"  ,the universal polite direction to be quiet. </p> <p>He was fringe.</p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Mon, 12 Dec 2016 13:33:22 +0000 Flavius comment 231398 at http://dagblog.com What is fringe about opposing http://dagblog.com/comment/231396#comment-231396 <a id="comment-231396"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/231394#comment-231394">I understand the United Front</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>What is fringe about opposing Sessions and ushering in a DOJ that will ignore police abuse? The division of civil rights will be gutted. Voting machines in Detroit did not function and could have swayed the election,Sessions will not investigate the case fully.</p> <p><a href="http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2016/12/10/what-if-michigan-held-key-presidential-election/95142214/">http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2016/12/10/what-if-michig...</a></p> </div></div></div> Mon, 12 Dec 2016 12:11:00 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 231396 at http://dagblog.com Sure, Peter, billion dollar http://dagblog.com/comment/231393#comment-231393 <a id="comment-231393"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/231382#comment-231382">I looked at some of the so</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Sure, Peter, billion dollar energy sector in flux but all English scientists and researchers are lying, "propaganda", only 1 noble German chap willing to tell the truth, that solar's footprint is greater than coal's.</p> <p>So tell me how much energy is required to mine a ton of coal and transport it to that efficient plant? How much of the produced energy is lost in production or in the miles of transmission/distribution cables carrying the energy to where it's used, vs solar's being used where produced (and of course it comes from the sun anyway).</p> <p>Combining solar cell transportation with these other figures tells us you're lying - the transportation costs of solar cells amortized over their lifetime is so low to be sub-negligible.</p> <p><a href="http://www.cleanenergyauthority.com/solar-energy-news/green-illusions-distorts-solar-on-environment-060712/">Here's a link I found in 2.7 microseconds</a> that gives NREL's test numbers, notes that NF3 &amp; SF6 are  not spewed in the air so can be mitigated, while 86% of SF6 is from conduction, only 7% from solar cells - where are your similar stats from miles of trans/distro conduction vs a few feet for PV from a rooftop? Sorry it's not in German - must be rigged.</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 12 Dec 2016 05:43:03 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 231393 at http://dagblog.com I understand the United Front http://dagblog.com/comment/231394#comment-231394 <a id="comment-231394"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/231380#comment-231380">Trump doesn&#039;t &quot;believe&quot;</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I understand the United Front argument and agree with it up to a point. The Left like the Right will always include a  fringe wing which  brings it discredit.</p> <p>Sort of like the anecdote about Wellington's supposed comment reviewing his forces on the eve of Waterloo: "I don' t know whether they will frighten Bony but by God they terrify me. "</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 12 Dec 2016 05:32:04 +0000 Flavius comment 231394 at http://dagblog.com