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Good article.

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 15 Dec 2016 21:09:50 +0000

In reply to It goes back to before her

Good article.

It goes back to before her

stillidealistic — Thu, 15 Dec 2016 20:01:32 +0000

In reply to Right, how did it get this

It goes back to before her arrival in DC, when she got a reputation in Arkansas as a feminist who gets things done. The menfolk didn't like that, although I remember one influential person in Arkansas saying they had perhaps backed the wrong Clinton. From there it went on to her early comments about baking cookies, and defending her husband from the attacks on him (and I'm sure she didn't WANT to believe they were true, what wife who loves her husband wouldn't until she HAD to?)

David Brock, in particular, was a big influence on people's perceptions of her. Since then he's mended his ways, but too little, too late (sorta like the guy who "created" donald in "The Art of the Deal" and now admits he made stuff up and twisted the truth into a pretzel.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/18/hillary-clinton-why-hate...

Yeah, policy's all over the

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 15 Dec 2016 11:56:38 +0000

In reply to I agree. My point was that it

Yeah, policy's all over the place. Over 50% of the GOP loves them some Putin now, concern about Syria as Axis of Evil is dead. Deficit concerns are gone. They no longer believe in contraception even, the right to privacy is non-existant, but pussy-grabbing locker room talk is normal for the family values set. Tax evasion is now "smart". Government intervention in business and calling winners & losers is preferred as long as a billionaire does it.

I agree. My point was that it

ocean-kat — Thu, 15 Dec 2016 09:56:07 +0000

In reply to Right, but I still feel the

I agree. My point was that it doesn't seem to be mostly about policy. Other factors seem to be in play. The decades long false attacks and endless failed investigations were probably a big part of it.

Right, but I still feel the

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 15 Dec 2016 07:48:38 +0000

In reply to How did we get here? I can't

Right, but I still feel the problem goes back decades, so they've tuned out everything Hillary says as "nasty woman", "Red Queen", "murderous", "corrupt", etc., so then it becomes a matter of justifying the 1 horse in the stable they have to ride. I saw a psychological study that noted that smart people are even better at justifying things that contradict their logic than dumb people, which leads me to the conclusion that everyone's easy to self-delude if they feel so inclined. File under "how smart people make dumb decisions". We rank as the #8 most educated country by 1 score - how can we make this impossibly bad choice, with all the obvious contradictions and evidence? Again, it's the daemon seed that's spawned this bizarre anti-reality over the decades.

How did we get here? I can't

ocean-kat — Thu, 15 Dec 2016 05:59:17 +0000

In reply to Right, how did it get this

How did we get here? I can't figure it out. I read an article a week ago that claimed 75% of Trump supporters want to increase renewable energy. Can't find it now but here's an article that talks about Trump supporters who don't want Obamacare repealed.

Why Obamacare enrollees voted for Trump

There was a persistent belief that Trump would fix these problems and make Obamacare work better. I kept hearing informed voters, who had watched the election closely, say they did hear the promise of repeal but simply felt Trump couldn’t repeal a law that had done so much good for them. In fact, some of the people I talked to hope that one of the more divisive pieces of the law — Medicaid expansion — might become even more robust, offering more of the working poor a chance at the same coverage the very poor receive.

Apparently some (many?) Trump voters voted for the person who didn't support their policy goals and often said he would do the opposite of what they wanted because they didn't believe he would do what he said he would do. WTF?

Right, how did it get this

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 15 Dec 2016 04:43:38 +0000

In reply to Right now I'm so depressed I

Right, how did it get this far? This is the psych trick of closing your eyes and going back to when you think the problem started, and further. What has made her such a magnet for hate, when did it start, how did she come to embody "evil" including for so many presumptive like spirits, what lesson about us and US political life can we draw from this? Hopefully to learn from, make the pain subside, do something besidees repeat an inglorious past.

Right now I'm so depressed I

stillidealistic — Thu, 15 Dec 2016 02:43:13 +0000

In reply to The Evil that is Hillary

Right now I'm so depressed I can't even begin to think of what the next election will look like. An amazing woman was brutalized by first by the "right wing conspiracy" that started long ago, Bernie was passive/aggressive in his attempt to bring her down, and in the process poisoned the minds of a lot of voters and pave the way for Jill Stein to "nader" her, and then we all know about the Russians, and donald's fifth, with our own FBI piling on.

If we can't elect one of the most qualified people in the country, I have no idea who we put up next, because obviously, being "qualified" is a bad thing. Will we have such a terrible donald experience that people will re-think that? It's too early to tell.

In the meantime, I'm sick to my stomach 24/7, and absolutely dreading the next 4 years (or dare I say, 8 years?) Demoralized doesn't even begin to cover it.

Every day brings a new horror, not only in his conflicts of interest, lack of intellectual curiosity, unwillingness to learn what he needs to know, but the "across the board" appointment of people who are not only the very insiders and elites he campaigned against, but hostile to the agencies they will charged with leading. And at the same time, the repubs in congress are going forward with their own plans to destroy Obamacare, Medicare and Social Security (the latter we were assured by the donald would be left alone) and make it next to impossible for a woman to control her own reproductive destiny.

It's overwhelming.

PP, at least your rantings

Peter — Wed, 14 Dec 2016 18:31:24 +0000

In reply to What will the left do? My

PP, at least your rantings are beginning to sound like a Red Queen obituary which is how failed vanquished political parasite's careers should be presented even if you have to fudge the reality quite a bit.

I doubt many people will waste their time reviewing her skanky record, real or imagined because she is history now not relevant anymore to anyone except a few true believers.

If you have been watching the democrat party is finishing digging their own resting place with their pathetic attempts to overturn the election but they do have the CIA working overtime on 'The Russians Are Coming' so the post-truth forces still have a few weeks to make trouble before they are purged.

The DNC should put Rahm Emmanual in charge, he knows how to keep the 'fucking retards' in line while this token Muslim Ellison doesn't seem too impressive.

If one of Bernie's supporters

barefooted — Wed, 14 Dec 2016 16:04:42 +0000

In reply to What will the left do? My

If one of Bernie's supporters ran the DNC, would we be surprises to see what kind of candidate he/she preferred and actions taken that put a "thumb on the scale"?

Given some time we may find out, if and when Keith Ellison gets the nod.