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Someone paid attention.

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 19 Dec 2016 23:26:30 +0000

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Someone paid attention.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/russian-ambassador-to-turkey-shot-...

They sure do. My wife was

ocean-kat — Fri, 16 Dec 2016 21:45:01 +0000

In reply to Immigrants always bring good

They sure do. My wife was Mexican and I love spicy Mexican food. But let's not kid ourselves. Democrats talk about Hispanics being part of the new democratic coalition but they are only marginally on our side because they feel the republicans don't want them. A third of Hispanics voted for Trump in spite of him using them as scapegoats to rile up his racist and xenophobic followers. Hispanics are mostly serious catholics and mostly anti-abortion. They are more naturally republicans than democrats and they are surely not liberal democrats. It's possible the republicans will always be the racist and anti-immigrant party. Then we can get a majority of the Hispanic vote. But if that changes democrats will lose the hispanic vote by large margins.

America has become more secular, more tolerant, more equal over the years. I certainly don't want to facilitate immigration of people whose cultural attitudes would undo those gains.

Those pictures and more which

A Guy Called LULU — Fri, 16 Dec 2016 17:26:00 +0000

In reply to The Left's Silence on Alieppo

Those pictures of Aleppo and more which I have seen are terrifically sad. Do monstrous men make war or do wars make men monstrous? I think both but there is only one of those two which I will wholeheartedly embrace doing away with. Maybe doing so will require some leap in the evolution of our psychology. Below is a picture of Caen France, said to have been a beautiful city before WWII, shortly after it was liberated by the good guys in 1944----.

I hung out in wonderful

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 16 Dec 2016 16:52:28 +0000

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I hung out in wonderful Syrian restaurants/cafes in Bangkok & Sofia - slightly easier ways to learn exotic cooking.

I'm with you that the

Michael Maiello — Fri, 16 Dec 2016 15:24:21 +0000

In reply to To be fair (I hate that),

I'm with you that the criticisms of Obama and Clinton on Syria (really from all sides) are totally misplaced. Assad and Putin and Iran are the real villains here.

Immigrants always bring good

Michael Maiello — Fri, 16 Dec 2016 15:20:24 +0000

In reply to So they can destablize this

Immigrants always bring good cooking techniques. You have to look at the bright side.

To be fair (I hate that),

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 16 Dec 2016 06:26:48 +0000

In reply to I agree as far as it goes.

To be fair (I hate that), Obama and Hillary own Syria too - they thought regime change thru proxies easy in the middle of the Arab Spring, and instead of just encouraging words, they provided some weapons to the developing protesters/rebels with little more strategy than that.

No, I don't want 1 million Syrians either, even though they're normal good and bad people like any other people, though more cultured and modern than many give them credit for.

But aside from few good options, the left has railed against say the Clintons for everything Haiti and for Obama and Clinton for chaos in Libya, but not at all against Putin's wanton bombing of civilians that's starting to look like Chechnya 2.0. Even ISIS' retaking Palmyra is all the US' fault, not Assad + Putin + Iran pulling troops and coverage out prematurely. Quite the tilt in expectations.

So they can destablize this

ocean-kat — Fri, 16 Dec 2016 05:13:00 +0000

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So they can destablize this country? I suppose we deserve it since it's our responsibility. I don't want millions of refugees entering the US any more than many European countries want them. It has nothing to do with Islamophobia or fear of terrorism. It's a cultural mindset and a country's ability to assimilate. Cultural views of women, of gays, about the role of religion in one's daily life. That's a lot to absorb and modernize as Germany is finding out. I would not want millions of refugees from these religious and intolerant regions any more than I'd want millions of time traveling Americans from 1850.

I agree with you. I would

Michael Maiello — Fri, 16 Dec 2016 03:49:58 +0000

In reply to I agree as far as it goes.

I agree with you. I would not object to some reasonable request like the US taking in... all the Syrians who would like to live here.

I agree as far as it goes.

ocean-kat — Fri, 16 Dec 2016 03:46:24 +0000

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I agree as far as it goes. But I wish Obama could have done something about the refugees. I don't think he even really tried. Europe, and a few middle east countries like Jordan is bearing the problem that America (bush) in a large part caused and it's a destabilizing force for many countries.