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Cartoon

Flavius — Thu, 12 Jan 2017 02:25:42 +0000

In reply to People are protesting Trump

Cartoon

First frame: Two Knights in armor face one another.Each has a broad axe with a 5 Ft handle.

Second frame : Just after A used his axe, cartoon shows ,via the conventional line to indicate movement, that the trajectory was horizontal , 5 ft from ground , towards Knight B. His neck

Third frame, just dialogue.

Knight B. : "You missed".

Knight A: Wait till you nod your head"

People are protesting Trump

rmrd0000 — Wed, 11 Jan 2017 04:36:55 +0000

In reply to The short answer is "no".

People are protesting Trump nominees during testimony before Congress. Democrats in Congress are protesting the pace of the nominee appearances. The unvetted nominees are now being presented at a slower pace. Activists and in your face tactics work. When you can document success using your method, people may listen.

The short answer is "no".

Flavius — Wed, 11 Jan 2017 04:17:11 +0000

In reply to Some people will try to avoid

The short answer is "no".

But even so, that's my recommendation. Maybe I'm the only one but I' m far more apt to be persuaded by civil contact than by physical opposition .Which at the very least tempts me to support the other side. ..

(Just to be clear I completely agree with going to court.)

And there obvious cases like the 60' sit ins, and draft opposition which I endorsed, .

But not Intimidation. Whether in front of an abortion clinic or the steps of the Underground - if we win the battle that way we lose the war.

That's the topic for another boring blog.Groan.

Some people will try to avoid

rmrd0000 — Tue, 10 Jan 2017 05:01:47 +0000

In reply to There's a good novel. Henry

Some people will try to avoid confrontation.Others realize that actions in the streets and court action removed a Republican Governor in NC. The attempted takeover of NC by the Republican legislature was slowed if not completely derailed by action in the streets and in the courts. The protests at the pipeline halted construction. People are free to push their neighbor's, something that is an act of kindness many people would do. I would still expect to see my Republican neighbor on the other side of the aisle in the courtroom. People are free to push cars. One would hope the car pushers would stop criticizing those practicing civil disobedience and those taking cases to court. Push cars, but get out of the way afterwards.

Edit to add:

MLK took the action to the streets. Things changed. Moral Mondays slowed voter suppression. Can you cite a success from pushing cars?

There's a good novel. Henry

Flavius — Tue, 10 Jan 2017 04:52:20 +0000

In reply to When in danger and in doubt

There's a good novel. Henry Green I think, That ends "And the next day they all went on the same."

They're gonna do what they're gonna do. Everything we do for the next 22 months should pass one test: will it help to defeat three Republican incumbent senators. If that means pushing my republican neighbor's car out of a snow bank I'll put on my boots.

I refuse to pretend that this

rmrd0000 — Mon, 09 Jan 2017 19:13:44 +0000

In reply to from tom toles blog:

I refuse to pretend that this is normal. Trump is an Authoritarian.

Edit to add:

Trump just named his full of business conflicts son-in-law as senior adviser to the White House. Want to take bets that Ivanka will get both of these guys to care about the environment?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-jared-kushner_us_5873d6...

The Donald tweeted about

rmrd0000 — Mon, 09 Jan 2017 19:06:47 +0000

In reply to Telling people that Democrats

The Donald tweeted about Meryl Streep criticizing him at an awards show. This is the President-elect! We would be insane not to openly oppose his Presidency and point out the danger he represents. Why be afraid to state the obvious? The brave people who opposed the Klan and White Citizen's Councils did not think they would change the minds of racists, they spoke out because of their moral beliefs.

from tom toles blog:

NCD — Mon, 09 Jan 2017 17:38:58 +0000

In reply to The Donald tweeted about

from tom toles blog:

Meryl Streep has more class in her little finger than Trump and all of his nasty family and vile appointees could ever come up with. And the American people know who the real flunky is and he serves one master, the chinless weasel, Putin. Our country is in a dire situation.

Telling people that Democrats

rmrd0000 — Mon, 09 Jan 2017 11:22:20 +0000

In reply to At one point Ken and I

Telling people that Democrats were wrong is exactly how Republicans win repeatedly. Some Liberals help Republicans by pointing out why the Democratic candidate if Republicans aren't challenged, why vote for the Democratic candidate. At this point, there is more to gain from encouraging minority and Third-Party voters to engage with the system than to encourage Trump supporters to switch to the Democratic Party.

Keith Olberman notes that Trump voters know that they made a mistake.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/keith-olbermann-trump-supporters_us_...

At one point Ken and I

Flavius — Mon, 09 Jan 2017 06:17:15 +0000

In reply to When in danger and in doubt

At one point Ken and I worked for Charlie in a largish firm. Ken was certainly the smartest. He'd published several Math text books to augment his retirement funds.

A couple of times a year the three of us hosted a fancy dinner for our 50 or 60 bankers.

Charlie once remarked after one of those occasions : "I always know that Ken's in the room when I hear a loud voice say : And where you're completely wrong....."

I'm too tired and old and dumb and sleepy to produce an omnibus reply brilliantly refuting you all.. Particularly since every one of you wrote something with which I agree .And some, a lot.

The lazy way out is quote. I'll use Nadime Gordimer. In some good novel she has a character think:

'in a complex situation you have to find a golden thread and hang on to it '..

That also figures in Greek mythology as moat can tell us.

My golden thread is : you don't win many elections by saying : "And where you're completely.......etc. etc."