dagblog - Comments for "The Commerce Clause And Rising Oil Prices" http://dagblog.com/commerce-clause-and-rising-oil-prices-21683 Comments for "The Commerce Clause And Rising Oil Prices" en Every morning I get up & use http://dagblog.com/comment/232399#comment-232399 <a id="comment-232399"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/232397#comment-232397">Is your argument that only</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Every morning I get up &amp; use the crapper (if lucky).</p> <p>I've no idea how to eliminate (sorry for pun) my role in polluting the environment.</p> <p>I've suspected since nursery school that this behavior is filthy and bad, but still, I can't quit it.</p> <p>I've been criticized a lot!!! My poop *does* stink!!! But yet I go on still!!!</p> <p>Of course you're allowed to criticize me. Just tell me how to do better.</p> <p>I don't want to be a blight on humanity. Even my gasses are non-green (not to mention my solids - yech).</p> <p>So tell me, how do I improve? I suspect the pizza shop around the corner is complicit, as is the Dorito chain and the Chinese takeout. Someone should shut them down - they're just making a buck off of fouling the planet.</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 11 Jan 2017 14:01:37 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 232399 at http://dagblog.com Is your argument that only http://dagblog.com/comment/232397#comment-232397 <a id="comment-232397"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/232377#comment-232377">But you still consume, yet</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Is your argument that only those who live in yurts can call the profiteers in the extraction industry evil?  I think you are saying that b/c I - a proud Prius owner - live in a society where it's nearly impossible, if not impossible, to survive without consuming fossil fuels, I am as culpable as people who choose to drive hummers who themselves are as guilty as the former CEO of ExxonMobil who funded climate deniers and stymied every suggestion that the corporation move towards renewables.  <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/jul/15/exxon-mobil-gave-millions-climate-denying-lawmakers">https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/jul/15/exxon-mobil-gave-mil...</a>  I reject that argument in whole.</p> <p>Again, if super-rich people who deliberately ignore, or worse fund deniers of, basic science demonstrating that fossil fuels are burning up our planet only so they can become even richer aren't evil, who is?  We can add that these corporate chieftains and their lackeys are also responsible for destroying the environments and the livelihoods of millions of people as well.  <a href="http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/11/shell-sued-uk-decades-oil-spills-nigeria-161122193545741.html">http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/11/shell-sued-uk-decades-oil-spills-n...</a></p> <p>One last remark.  It seems to me that your universal guilt argument is really a way for you (and others) to avoid facing the monstrousness of those few who are driving energy-policy for their own ends and against those of biodiversity on this planet.  B/c everybody does at least some harm to the environment, you contend none is allowed to criticize even the worst malefactors.</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 11 Jan 2017 13:41:35 +0000 HSG comment 232397 at http://dagblog.com But you still consume, yet http://dagblog.com/comment/232377#comment-232377 <a id="comment-232377"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/232376#comment-232376">I am not a perfect person.  I</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>But you still consume, yet you call those in the energy business evil. Should they cut you off cold turkey.</p> <p>Rockefeller et al had no idea about global warming over a century later - were they evil too? What year did all non-green energy jobs become evil? Does that include energy supplying hospitals and old folks homes and blood banks? What about ambulances and fire trucks?</p> </div></div></div> Tue, 10 Jan 2017 19:18:44 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 232377 at http://dagblog.com I am not a perfect person.  I http://dagblog.com/comment/232376#comment-232376 <a id="comment-232376"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/232366#comment-232366">What&#039;s your role in this,</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I am not a perfect person.  I consume fossil fuels.  I do the best to consume as little as possible.  I bike and walk as much as I can.  I use public transportation whenever possible.  I keep the heat down in the winter and a/c off so long as I can bear the super-charged by AGW heat in summer. </p> <p>I also urge people to vote for candidates who will change the current paradigm by incentivizing the production of clean green energy and disincentivizing the production and consumption of fossil fuels.</p> <p>We live in a society where most people have little or no control over their environment.  A few extraordinarily wealthy and powerful people continue to push us in the worst possible direction purely out of self-interest.  If that's not evil, what is?</p> </div></div></div> Tue, 10 Jan 2017 19:04:47 +0000 HSG comment 232376 at http://dagblog.com What's your role in this, http://dagblog.com/comment/232366#comment-232366 <a id="comment-232366"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/232361#comment-232361">If you define evil as</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>What's your role in this, your mum and dad's, your neighbors', your town's? On one level they're just giving us what we ask. We want birthday cake every day, they bring it - blame them cause we're getting fat or the candles set the house on fire?</p> </div></div></div> Tue, 10 Jan 2017 07:01:41 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 232366 at http://dagblog.com If you define evil as http://dagblog.com/comment/232361#comment-232361 <a id="comment-232361"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/232353#comment-232353">??? A monthly check from the</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>If you define evil as destroying our biosphere, causing the 6th great extinction, falsifying data, and denying science, yes they are evil.</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 09 Jan 2017 23:51:23 +0000 HSG comment 232361 at http://dagblog.com ??? A monthly check from the http://dagblog.com/comment/232353#comment-232353 <a id="comment-232353"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/232340#comment-232340">Thanks Danny.  High prices</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>??? A monthly check from the IRS for how much? $5 for every gallon of gas sold run through all the gas station operators, charged through Visa/Mastercard/Discover/AmEx, then recycled back to the people after how many months?</p> <p>And why are all these oil industry players "bad actors"? Refining oil is on the same level as "petro-dictator"? Distributing gas is evil, as is managing a pipeline? Then why are the American people getting money back for driving? Shouldn't you "screw all of them" too?</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 09 Jan 2017 14:31:07 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 232353 at http://dagblog.com Danny's projections about oil http://dagblog.com/comment/232342#comment-232342 <a id="comment-232342"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/commerce-clause-and-rising-oil-prices-21683">The Commerce Clause And Rising Oil Prices</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Danny's projections about oil prices rising due to the Trump effect were interesting so I looked at what the folks at oilprice.com had to say. The Russians are projecting oil at $40 a barrel this year and $45 the next year so supply and demand are still the factors controlling oil prices not speculation or regulation. Reduced regulation may produce some improved profits but has no effect on the continuing oil glut and slowing demand holding down prices. Even the cuts announced by OPEC that caused the recent spike in price won't last because they are mostly paper cuts and increased production from Libya, Nigeria and OPEC cheating will leave the world with a glut of oil for the foreseeable future. </p> <p> </p> <p>Perhaps Donald could send Vlad a new US made Ford SUV full of Trump steaks and wine as a conciliation  gift for not helping with his oil price problem.</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 09 Jan 2017 02:32:47 +0000 Peter comment 232342 at http://dagblog.com Thanks Danny.  High prices http://dagblog.com/comment/232340#comment-232340 <a id="comment-232340"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/commerce-clause-and-rising-oil-prices-21683">The Commerce Clause And Rising Oil Prices</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Thanks Danny.  High prices for oil on the commodities markets help lots of bad actors - petro-dictators, fossil fuel extractors, refiners, and distributors, pipeline operators, etc. - the best way to screw all of them is to tack a $5 gallon tax and rising on gasoline at the pump with all revenues rebated to the American people via a monthly check from the IRS.</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 09 Jan 2017 01:38:18 +0000 HSG comment 232340 at http://dagblog.com