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We also have to point out

rmrd0000 — Sat, 21 Jan 2017 19:29:49 +0000

In reply to We have to be more forceful

We also have to point out that David Duke is ecstatic about the result and the alt-right held a ball celebrating the inauguration. The fact that attendees at the ball had to be instructed not to give Nazi salutes says it all.

David Duke

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-david-duke_us_58824741e...

Nazi salute warning

http://www.tmz.com/2017/01/19/trump-deplorables-ban-nazi-salute-deplorab...

We have to be more forceful

rmrd0000 — Sat, 21 Jan 2017 19:05:07 +0000

In reply to They were ready for Obama at

We have to be more forceful in countering attacks. For example, a common meme is that blacks are programmed to vote for Democrats. This ignores the racism tolerated by the GOP. Black Republicans are "independent thinkers" while black Democrats are "on the plantation". Republicans wonder how blacks can criticize Jim Brown or Steve Harvey for meeting with Trump. In their next breath, they beam with pride regarding the ability to purge the Dixie Chicks from country music stations. The hypocrisy of the reactionaries has to be confronted. Republicans may propose bills that appear to help on the surface, but you can be sure that they will "pay for" the bill by cutting a program that aids the poor or middle class. Reactionaries are predictable and Shumer should recognize this and attack the harm that will come from passing bill X or Y.

They were ready for Obama at

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 21 Jan 2017 18:40:56 +0000

In reply to We tend to try to make nice

They were ready for Obama at Day Minus 73 - obstruct the presidency, make him a one-termer. They at least failed in that. But these are the same fights we've seen (or heard tell of) since WWI and before - Wolraich can summarize all the antitrust fights and what not of the late 1800's - they didn't walk away quietly either.

The thing you can hand MLK is he played to win - pressure on multiple fronts, concise & achievable objectives, clear moral justification, mobilized support, ready to suffer and be a pain in the ass as needed, and knew how to take partnerships and support where he could find it. Granted, civil rights movements aren't quite like political campaigns, but neither was the Orangutan's foray into politics either.

If you summarize everyone's points, you at least knew he was "delusional corrupt self-absorbed poseur & cracker thinks he can solve the world's problems or at least get elected by insulting people and referring to TV action movies" - we got what was on the tin. What was Jeb's claim to fame? "boring legacy candidate with lots of family money isn't quite sure he wants to be president, but since dad & bro been there before, why not?"

Again, no one is saying anything interesting. We've become the Stepford Nation with the perfect Stepford First Family. Did you dig that Inauguration Speech? I don't know whose cadaver he ripped out of the morgue, but it was one helluva bland plagiarism worthy, missing just a reference to "helping children" to be a perfectly bland and unassailable Beauty Pageant statement of intent. Hmmm, I think I answered my own question.

We tend to try to make nice

rmrd0000 — Sat, 21 Jan 2017 18:02:35 +0000

In reply to Did we give up? (when the Germans attacked Pearl Harbor)

We tend to try to make nice and not take a hard stance. Reactionaries made it a point from day one to oppose anything Obama proposed. The response to "give Trump a chance is Hell No, We treat him like the GOP treated Obama".. If there was a hint of Russian influence in Hillary's campaign even with the loss, there would be Congressional investigations. Even now, the investigation into Hillary will continue in Congress. The GOP will not be investigating conflicts of interest by Trump. We should not be afraid to oppose Trump and the GOP. Block everything that you can.

Trump is just the next bubble

NCD — Sat, 21 Jan 2017 17:28:30 +0000

In reply to Did we give up? (when the Germans attacked Pearl Harbor)

Trump is just the next bubble, the latest scam, the 'fix' for your boredom, the next episode of entertainment. He's a well seasoned entertaining expert.

Frank Zappa said: "Government is the Entertainment division of the military-industrial complex.” Driftglass adds to that.

Driftglass in The Narcotic of Trump rather colorfully summed it up, quoting himself from 2008.

Substitute Obama for Clinton, and Trump for Bush to update it:

Clinton was mere addiction maintenance delivered in measured doses under adult supervision: all policy-wonk that wasn’t cut with that industrial-waste-grade bigoted, psychotic bloodlust that gives Conservatism its wild, freebasing edge. Clinton was methadone, and for the hardcore lifestyle junkie, that shit is for babies.

Dubya? Dubya was meth with a ketamine chaser delivered hammer-and-anvil directly to the lizard brain. Dubya was 40 million Pig People tired of the hard, fussy job of being a tolerant, powerful democracy finally once-and-for-all blowing America’s family inheritance on an eight-year, blood-drunk bender.