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Whoops.

moat — Mon, 23 Jan 2017 15:28:29 +0000

In reply to Those were not my words and

Whoops.

I had a Trump moment there.and lost track of the beginning. No more posting after my bedtime.

I understand what you mean by "pretend."

personal side note to ocean

artappraiser — Mon, 23 Jan 2017 04:09:06 +0000

In reply to You're the one who keeps

personal side note to ocean-kat: I sure am glad I had to miss all of this, reminds me of painful Obamamania at TPMCafe in 2008. agin

You're the one who keeps

ocean-kat — Mon, 23 Jan 2017 03:34:38 +0000

In reply to Yes you did. You provided a

You're the one who keeps lashing out at Hillary. For me the primary was over months ago. Anyone who can do math knew it was clearly over months before Sanders decided to admit it was over. Even after the general election you're still nursing your hurt butt that by a large majority the democrats didn't want Sanders to be the nominee. Maybe you need to consider that the democratic party is not where you want to be. I stand by every post I made here your distorted interpretation of them not with standing. What you've never been able to understand is that no matter how much you believe your opinions that doesn't make them facts.

Trump is a Clusterf**k

rmrd0000 — Mon, 23 Jan 2017 03:09:29 +0000

In reply to Those were not my words and

Trump is a Clusterf**k elected by racists and women-haters. We need to encourage non-racists to vote. Many were under the impression that Hillary had the election in the bag and didn't bother to vote. Hillary was the best choice. The racists let their bigotry override their brains. White women and Evangelicals voted for a misogynist and faux-Christian. Women voted against their own self-interests because they succumbed to the pressure of male supremacy. In 2018, we need to insure that minorities and young women vote. Hillary was a fine candidate. Hubert Humphrey was a fine candidate. Racists will screw things up every time. David Duke is very happy with DJ Trump.

Those were not my words and

HSG — Mon, 23 Jan 2017 02:58:20 +0000

In reply to You wrote that her supporters

Those were not my words and they never were my words. I did not edit out anything like that. I did write the following and it is still in this thread:

"Those who pretend that Clinton was a fine candidate who was undermined by progressives are making it far more likely we will continue to nominate bad candidates who may well lose and, if they win, will set back the movement for justice and the Democratic party as Bill Clinton did in a number of important ways."

That sentence is written in the present tense as a criticism of those who now, after Clinton lost disastrously, still "pretend" she was a "fine candidate". By definition, she could not possibly have been a fine candidate since she lost to the most unpopular candidate ever. Yet people still claim she was. That's what I was referring to.

Trump is an authoritarian who

rmrd0000 — Mon, 23 Jan 2017 02:54:21 +0000

In reply to Nothing matters except that

Trump is an authoritarian who can have agencies wipe data or refuse to release data to the public. We are under assault. We don't have the time to spend on what if Trump wasn't elected, Trump is in the White House.

Trump is the president. He

rmrd0000 — Mon, 23 Jan 2017 02:51:40 +0000

In reply to I agree that racism played a

Trump is the president. He has racists on his side and in his Cabinet. The DOJ has put a lawsuit against voter suppression in Texas on hold. The White House website has removed mention of Climate Change. The women's march documents the concerns women have about Trump. Trump says that those who disagree with his agenda are his enemies. Kellyanne wants to discuss alternative facts. Do we really have to keep spending time on the 2016 election? When LBJ signed the Civil Rights bills, racists fled the Democratic Party for the GOP. Another group of racists shifted to the GOP in 2016. They are gone. Look at the size of the crowds in D.C. and across the nation.That is our base. They are ready to toss any Republican in sight out of office.

Nothing matters except that

NCD — Mon, 23 Jan 2017 02:41:21 +0000

In reply to Trump is the president. He

Nothing matters except that Hal knows who is guilty, and it's not him.

You wrote that her supporters

moat — Mon, 23 Jan 2017 02:15:01 +0000

In reply to I didn't write that Clinton's

You wrote that her supporters pretended something they could not really believe or support as a matter of fact.
Those are your words.

Edit to add:

Those were your words before the discussion unfolded and you edited your comment.

Wow. So it is like that.

I didn't write that Clinton's

HSG — Mon, 23 Jan 2017 01:20:13 +0000

In reply to It is tempting to engage with

I didn't write that Clinton's supporters voted for her against their own better understanding. I wrote and believe that by refusing to acknowledge her very serious shortcomings, her staunch supporters had little credibility when trying to persuade fence sitters to vote for her rather than to stay home or to vote for a third-party candidate.