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Slogan suggestion:

CVille Dem — Wed, 25 Jan 2017 20:58:55 +0000

In reply to We can't agree on a slogan

Slogan suggestion:

"End The Corporatocracy!

Now, that'll get those coal miners' attention! I'll bet if you set it to music you could even dance to it. It really speaks to the heart of every red-blooded American who just wants a break, including those who voted for the ultimate corporatist who ran on promising to take their health care away from them, (and who never said "Thank You" to the President who made it all possible for them).

OTOH

Over at TPM Josh mentioned a new name: Pete Buttigieg, mayor of South Bend, Indiana; who wants to be the next DNC head. He had a refreshingly new idea:

Look, we've got a fight. We've also got to be fighting for our values. For far too long, Democratic strategy and policy has been organized completely around Republican strategy and policy.

He's got a point.

edited for spelling

This was my comment:

CVille Dem — Wed, 25 Jan 2017 20:57:55 +0000

In reply to The hypocrisy was in calling

This was my comment:

The problem with a unifying theme, which I agree we need, is the self-defeating group of purists who make sure that mud is thrown all over the Democratic winner.

How can we have Progressive unity when some in the party disparage and accuse the winner of cheating and theft, giving shelter and vocabulary to the opponent? That is self-defeating, and the fact that there is still an effort to make HRC's supporters "admit" that they were wrong after all this time, concerns me for the future. I know the election is over. I did not write this blog, nor have I responded to every gripe of Hals, but as I said, my concern is that in the future, the Perfect will be the Enemy of the Good.

If that is hypocrisy, I have much worse faults, LOL!

From TPM:

CVille Dem — Wed, 25 Jan 2017 20:43:22 +0000

In reply to The DNC chair is under

From TPM:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/that-sounds-right

A new, very sensitble candidate appears.

wow, you've gained moderator

artappraiser — Wed, 25 Jan 2017 20:13:11 +0000

In reply to You are teh awesome - feel

wow, you've gained moderator skills since I been gone, who'd a thunk it?

The GOP purges started in the

Michael Wolraich — Wed, 25 Jan 2017 18:30:00 +0000

In reply to I think you're confusing a

The GOP purges started in the 1970s led by Paul Weyrich, founder of the Heritage Foundation, Moral Majority, and the Committee for the Survival of a Free Congress (the first right-wing PAC). With funding from the Coors, he and his associates primaried Republicans whom they didn't consider sufficiently conservative. One target was Rep. John B. Anderson, who would later run as an independent in the 1980 presidential election. Here is George Will's comment on the primary race, circa 1978:

Trust the zany right-wingers to work themselves into a perfect lather because Anderson voted against Washington issuing an unintelligible decree to local schools . . . The Republican “left” has been shrinking even faster than the party itself has been. Today, the GOP is a conservative party, with less diversity than exists within Britain’s Labor and Conservative parties, and more ideological uniformity than any major American party has had in this century.

The GOP purges have been going on ever since with different players but same game plan: Rush Limbaugh, NRA, Club for Growth, Koch brothers, Tea Parties.

With every purge and lurch to the right, pundits like George Will warned that the GOP was making itself unelectable. And yet, the GOP's power has steadily increased from the 1960s, when it was a "big tent" minority party to 2016, when it is an ideologically homogeneous majority party.

Nope, "less bitching, more

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 25 Jan 2017 18:07:23 +0000

In reply to We can't agree on a slogan

Nope, "less bitching, more winning"

You are teh awesome - feel

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 25 Jan 2017 18:04:30 +0000

In reply to As is usual, I provide

You are teh awesome - feel better?

Trump is every bit as awful

HSG — Wed, 25 Jan 2017 18:02:46 +0000

In reply to Hal, Hillary got 88% of the

Trump is every bit as awful as you say RMRD. I find his election to be among a handful of the most dispiriting and devastating tragedies to befall our nation (and by extension the planet) since World War II.

The question we must ask ourselves is how can we extricate ourselves from this disaster and prevent recurrences. My argument is that Trump was able to win in large part because Democratic party leaders chose to forsake working people in favor the corporatist class on a number of occasions over the past 25 years. Therefore, in order to regain power and influence, I contend, the party must reverse course and reject outright corporatism.

You are of course free to point out how much worse the Republicans are and you are right to do so. But, as I noted, Democrats have to be better than Republicans, in part, because they exploit race and gender divisions far more effectively. In addition, Trump prevailed because he ran against the Republican and Democratic establishments exploiting the festering resentments of the working class against both. Clinton ran as the embodiment of the latter.

We can't agree on a slogan

HSG — Wed, 25 Jan 2017 17:29:42 +0000

In reply to The hypocrisy was in calling

We can't agree on a slogan until we come to some agreement on whether Hillary's or Bernie's or somebody else's vision for the Democratic party and our nation is the correct one. For example, I would probably plump for something like "End the Corporatocracy" while PP would prefer "More Money in Politics".

As is usual, I provide

HSG — Wed, 25 Jan 2017 17:21:51 +0000

In reply to "I am far more committed both

As is usual, I provide specific facts that strongly support my assertions. Likewise, your rejoinder is full of bombast, profanity, and SHOUTING.