dagblog - Comments for "The Kind of Comedy that Can Hurt Trump" http://dagblog.com/link/kind-comedy-can-hurt-trump-21781 Comments for "The Kind of Comedy that Can Hurt Trump" en But seriously, AA, when does http://dagblog.com/comment/234200#comment-234200 <a id="comment-234200"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/234198#comment-234198">reminded me of this:</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>But seriously, AA, when does it stop being funny?  I've wondered about that when watching SNL of late - they're doing a good job but even they seem to be struggling to walk the line between making fun of the administration and acknowledging that there are serious issues behind the laughs.  The last depiction of Conway as a totally evil nutjob is an example.  When does scary in real life stop being funny on TV?</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 17 Feb 2017 04:44:29 +0000 barefooted comment 234200 at http://dagblog.com reminded me of this: http://dagblog.com/comment/234198#comment-234198 <a id="comment-234198"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/234197#comment-234197">Genius Browser Extension</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>reminded me of this:</p> <p> </p> <div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p><a href="https://t.co/qcMHj3Hiap">pic.twitter.com/qcMHj3Hiap</a></p> — joe (@mutablejoe) <a href="https://twitter.com/mutablejoe/status/828926881244262400">February 7, 2017</a></blockquote> </div> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Fri, 17 Feb 2017 04:26:35 +0000 artappraiser comment 234198 at http://dagblog.com Genius Browser Extension http://dagblog.com/comment/234197#comment-234197 <a id="comment-234197"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/kind-comedy-can-hurt-trump-21781">The Kind of Comedy that Can Hurt Trump</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><div> <p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/daily-show-extension-trump-tweets_us_58a5596ce4b037d17d24dae2">Genius Browser Extension Turns Donald Trump’s Tweets Into Childish Scribbles</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/daily-show-extension-trump-tweets_us_58a5596ce4b037d17d24dae2">“The Daily Show” is making his tweets “eight again.”</a></p> </div> <div> <div> <div> <div>@ Huffington Post, Feb. 16</div> </div> </div> </div> </div></div></div> Fri, 17 Feb 2017 04:18:24 +0000 artappraiser comment 234197 at http://dagblog.com Is a Job at the White House http://dagblog.com/comment/233763#comment-233763 <a id="comment-233763"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/kind-comedy-can-hurt-trump-21781">The Kind of Comedy that Can Hurt Trump</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><em>Is a Job at the White House Right for You?</em></p> <p><em>FEB. 11, 2017</em></p> <p><em>There’s only one way to find out: Apply!</em></p> <p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/02/11/opinion/12opart.html?action=click&amp;pgtype=Homepage&amp;clickSource=story-heading&amp;module=opinion-c-col-top-region&amp;region=opinion-c-col-top-region&amp;WT.nav=opinion-c-col-top-region">https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/02/11/opinion/12opart.html</a></p> </div></div></div> Sat, 11 Feb 2017 21:01:34 +0000 artappraiser comment 233763 at http://dagblog.com Humor is a very powerful http://dagblog.com/comment/233739#comment-233739 <a id="comment-233739"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/233723#comment-233723">Comedians may be more capable</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><em>Humor is a very powerful political tool.</em></p> <p>Well, at least Trump hasn't tried <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/10/world/europe/jan-bohmermann-recep-tayyip-erdogan-poem.html?_r=0">this tactic</a> - yet.</p> </div></div></div> Sat, 11 Feb 2017 00:31:09 +0000 barefooted comment 233739 at http://dagblog.com Comedians may be more capable http://dagblog.com/comment/233723#comment-233723 <a id="comment-233723"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/233705#comment-233705">For the past few days Chris</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><em>Comedians may be more capable of challenging Trump's policies than the journalists.</em></p> <p>I've felt that <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/reply/21744/232790">to be the case since the inauguration.</a> Along with ridicule en masse from amateurs in social media like Twitter. (Twitter especially because he himself believes in its power.) To date, I've seen nothing to change my mind, rather, it seems more of a sure thing. The MSM feel safer to challenge after the comics soften up the culture first.</p> <p>Furthermore, I see serious earnest protests as risking being counterproductive. If they include humor, like many signs in the Women's March, they can be more successful, because a larger group will feel comfortable participating. Seriousness in protest would just reinforce in him that he's an important force to be dealt with. Ridicule is key with a narcissist (and with trolls), Getting a rise out of you reinforces their beliefs.</p> <p>(Comes to mind Fox news et. al. has played this for a long time as regards liberal protest, the "oh but think of the children" thing. It works to marginalize, no narcissist needed.)</p> <p>Matthews if he wants to get his serious attention would have to do more like Graydon Carter. Carter is a real thorn in Trump's side, it's because of the sarcastic approach. He can't retort as well with that.</p> <p>Edit to add: that comedy can affect political change is not pie in the sky, there are ample historical examples. It has been exceptionally effective with king-type figures, with "pompous asses." Ain't a fluke that ultra conservative Muslims can be riled to riot by a cartoon ridiculing the prophet. (Or that Salman Rushdie had a death fatwa against him for what was bascially a literary caricature.) Remember all the arguments about the importance of freedom of speech with that caricature? Someone like Trump with power is why we need to preserve the ability for cartoonists to do such things. Humor is a very powerful political tool.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 10 Feb 2017 23:55:16 +0000 artappraiser comment 233723 at http://dagblog.com I enjoyed this a lot, thanks. http://dagblog.com/comment/233726#comment-233726 <a id="comment-233726"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/233651#comment-233651">This is a great article from</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I enjoyed this a lot, thanks.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 10 Feb 2017 23:27:13 +0000 artappraiser comment 233726 at http://dagblog.com The above wasn't just idle http://dagblog.com/comment/233724#comment-233724 <a id="comment-233724"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/233649#comment-233649">Comic celebs starting to see</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>The above wasn't just idle gossip, she really badly wants to play Bannon:</p> <p><a href="http://wgntv.com/2017/02/10/rosie-odonnell-debuts-new-steve-bannon-inspired-twitter-profile-pic/">http://wgntv.com/2017/02/10/rosie-odonnell-debuts-new-steve-bannon-inspired-twitter-profile-pic</a>/</p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Fri, 10 Feb 2017 23:17:42 +0000 artappraiser comment 233724 at http://dagblog.com For the past few days Chris http://dagblog.com/comment/233705#comment-233705 <a id="comment-233705"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/kind-comedy-can-hurt-trump-21781">The Kind of Comedy that Can Hurt Trump</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>For the past few days Chris Mathews has expressed concern that judges are entering into the sphere of policy. Mathews feels that the President gets to make the call on National Security, Mathews is probably true. If Trump crafts a policy that is not ethnically biased, he will probably prevail ( from the standpoint of a non-lawyer). My problem with Mathews is that he seems to suggest that whatever the President does in terms of national security is OK.Mathews has Alan Dershowitz on to give legal advice on how to make proper law. I suspect that he realizes Trump watches cable TV and hopes to get his ear. Chris Mathews seems a bit unhinged on the issue. He seems to have forgotten that a willing press let another President use national security to get us into an unnecessary war. I appreciate the others get to review what Trump proposes.Lives may depend on such reviews.</p> <p>Comedians may be more capable of challenging Trump's policies than the journalists.</p> <p> </p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Fri, 10 Feb 2017 17:16:12 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 233705 at http://dagblog.com And just for harmless fun - http://dagblog.com/comment/233702#comment-233702 <a id="comment-233702"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/kind-comedy-can-hurt-trump-21781">The Kind of Comedy that Can Hurt Trump</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>And just for harmless fun -</p> <p> </p> <div class="media_embed" height="331px" width="589px"><iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="331px" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/dK3LbVFgyqQ?ecver=1" width="589px"></iframe></div> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Fri, 10 Feb 2017 16:38:38 +0000 barefooted comment 233702 at http://dagblog.com