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I was referring to this Nixon

barefooted — Fri, 03 Feb 2017 01:55:41 +0000

In reply to The Reagan strategy. Nixon

Iran, Puzzled by Trump,

artappraiser — Thu, 02 Feb 2017 20:23:16 +0000

Iran, Puzzled by Trump, Treads Carefully for Now

By Thomas Erdbrink @ NYTimes.com, Feb. 2

TEHRAN — Until two weeks ago, Iran’s clerics felt comfortable leading worshipers in a chorus of “Death to America” while simultaneously signing a $16.6 billion deal with Boeing. Now, that status quo seems very long ago and the establishment is treading carefully, with even most hard-liners concerned that the smallest provocation could lead to military conflict.

But some question how long their caution will last in the face of a Trump administration that has brought a new level of hostility and confrontation to a relationship that under President Barack Obama had been brittle but stable. Tensions flared this week after Iran confirmed that it had conducted a missile test and the national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn, warned Iran that it had been put “on notice.”

On Thursday, Iran’s Foreign Ministry spokesman, Bahram Qassemi, gave a mild rejoinder, saying, “It is a shame that the U.S. government, instead of thanking the Iranian nation for their continued fight against terrorism, keeps repeating unfounded claims and adopts unwise policies that are effectively helping terrorist groups." [....]

The Reagan strategy. Nixon

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 02 Feb 2017 07:02:26 +0000

In reply to The Nixon strategy.

The Reagan strategy. Nixon steadily pulled out 500,000 troops over 4 years, whatever his faults were. Ironically he did a much better job fixing LBJ's quagmire than Obama did Bush's, but that point will never make it into popular thinking. (though LBJ had a much better reason for being in Indochina than Bush in the Mideast - the threat wasn't a mirage)

Apparently I wasn't clear. I

barefooted — Thu, 02 Feb 2017 05:17:24 +0000

In reply to Yet reading the above -and

Apparently I wasn't clear. I find it nearly impossible to find that he's advocating peace in his words. But I guess it depends on who you're fighting.

Yet reading the above -and

A Guy Called LULU — Thu, 02 Feb 2017 05:11:11 +0000

In reply to And I think: We’re on our own

Yet reading the above -and more- it's also nearly impossible to find peace in his words.

Well, he did give a trigger warning in the title. "Morbid Thoughts in Time of Trump" Robin is not the first to think that a major war could start today tripped off by stupidity analogous to that which started WWI. That even as many millions of people think they are already in a major war.

Trump makes news for them all

NCD — Thu, 02 Feb 2017 05:03:09 +0000

In reply to NCD, you got me on another

Trump makes news for them all, and that means clicks and eyeballs and MONEY! War is even better!

Practically though, can Daggers get privileged places in the secret Comet Pizza basement, in case Mexico, Australia, Yemen, Iraq or Iran shoot back?

NCD, you got me on another

artappraiser — Thu, 02 Feb 2017 04:56:42 +0000

In reply to RED LINE: IRAN ON (WAR?) NOTICE

NCD, you inspired me to visit another site I haven't thought of in ages, much less been to; turns out you're simpatico on the news!

TRUMP CALLS TO WORLD LEADERS LEAK
THREATENS TROOPS INTO MEX
TOUGH TALK WITH OZ

The Nixon strategy.

barefooted — Thu, 02 Feb 2017 04:42:59 +0000

In reply to I have absolutely zero proof

The Nixon strategy.

I have absolutely zero proof

artappraiser — Thu, 02 Feb 2017 04:38:26 +0000

In reply to We still haven't gone to war

I have absolutely zero proof on this, but my intuition is that Trump believes really nasty saber rattling is a war preventative. I.E.,big scary U.S., king of the world, don't tread on me or I may go nuts. (Not that I think that works, no way, is like a belief of those that haven't read history. Just that it is what it is.)

And I think: We’re on our own

barefooted — Thu, 02 Feb 2017 04:35:13 +0000

In reply to We still haven't gone to war

And I think: We’re on our own. No one is going to save us from these people. I’m glad we’re fighting so hard. I believe there is more intelligence, more grit, more vision, more power in all of us than in all of them. We are all leaders, we must all lead. Keep fighting. Keep fighting. They must be stopped.

From your Corey Robin piece. It's brief, so I'm not sure who "these people" are, or who we're to "keep fighting". I assume he means the leaders within our government, the decision makers with whom he disagrees, but I can't tell without doubt. I also wonder how we must all lead ... if we are all leaders who are we leading?

At any rate, I understand that he believes in and is a strong proponent of peace between nations and nonintervention. A position that is nearly impossible to disagree with on solid ground. Yet reading the above -and more- it's also nearly impossible to find peace in his words.