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Every time a story linking

artappraiser — Thu, 16 Feb 2017 12:36:32 +0000

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Every time a story linking Trump to Russia is uncovered there's another one inside. Can't think of a good metaphor for it though.
— joe (@mutablejoe) February 15, 2017

Page was on tv today and not

jollyroger — Thu, 16 Feb 2017 05:55:23 +0000

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Page was on tv today and not effectual in his attempts to divert.

Since you bring up Julia Ioffe, here's the best two things about her:

and:

http://the-e-r-podcast.foreignpolicy.com

just ran across thi Sept. s

artappraiser — Wed, 15 Feb 2017 20:41:17 +0000

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just ran across this Sept. Politico article which suggests to me that this story could get way messy and complicated, far worse than the plot of a 19th C Russian novel, forget Watergate, maybe more like the Kennedy assassination:

The Mystery of Trump’s Man in Moscow

Reports of deep Russian ties swirl around Trump adviser Carter Page. Oddly, nobody in Russia seems to have heard of him.

By JULIA IOFFE, September 23, 2016

and a quick google of Carter Page and I see some usual suspects are already on this, I am not even going to bother to click through (the discipline thing = stay with the big picture):

Manafort, Page, Flynn, Trump: Russia is the one story that can bring them all down

Daily Kos · 1 day ago

FBI finds smoking gun on Donald Trump advisor Carter Page, but has he already fled to Russia?

Palmer Report · 12 hours ago

I thought you might be

Peter — Wed, 15 Feb 2017 20:40:17 +0000

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I thought you might be progressing beyond denial of the present and future Trump reality with your link to the Berkeley story. I was disappointed again after reading that nonsense and drivel, It's quite bizarre to see Trump highlighting the loss of free speech while supposedly progressive people seem to cheer when Soros Black Shirts destroyed the windows at the MLK center there to suppress free speech.

Trump seems to view the Clintonites and their media much like the pesky bugs around his Florida redoubt, they may occasionally sting him but he has a big fly swatter and they are only an annoyance.

C'mon, keep up AA

artappraiser — Wed, 15 Feb 2017 19:46:22 +0000

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C'mon, keep up AA

Talking straight on that: I can see enough now that I have to admit: I will not be able to! I am recalling that I could not watch the Watergate hearings like one roommate did because: I had a life and had to earn a living. If it takes 4 or 5 top-notch reporters 24/7 to figure it all out, how can I keep up? I suspect part of me hopes Trump all of a sudden goes "uncle, I give up, take this job and shove it, I resign" just so I don't get addicted to the daily churn. .

P.S. Discipline, discipline, pray for discipline. One self-instruction on that comes to me clearly now: ignore the trolls in order to have time to read and analyze news with others. Because: I find adversarial debate to be a pretty inefficient method of finding the truth--sorry that's kind of an insult to your profession.

Donald Trump: "I love

artappraiser — Wed, 15 Feb 2017 18:53:59 +0000

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Donald Trump: "I love WikiLeaks!" [10/10/16]

C'mon, keep up AA that was

Bruce Levine — Wed, 15 Feb 2017 18:48:14 +0000

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C'mon, keep up AA that was like so 10 minutes ago. :) So how Spicer's explanation square with Trump's seeming defense of Flynn today--i.e. great guy treated unfairly by the media, and nothing about any deliberative process allowing him to come to terms with an eradication of trust, or something. ABC reporting from the presser with Bibi:

The Latest on President Donald Trump (all times EST):

12:35 p.m.

President Donald Trump says his ousted national security adviser, Michael Flynn, is a "wonderful man" who has been treated "very, very unfairly" by the media.

The White House says Trump fired Flynn late Monday following reports that Flynn had discussed sanctions with the Russian ambassador to the U.S. before Trump was sworn into office.

Flynn and other administration officials originally denied the topic had been discussed. White House spokesman Sean Spicer said Tuesday that Flynn had lost the president's trust.

But Trump says in a joint news conference with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that he thinks "it's really a sad thing" that Flynn "was treated so badly."

He's also going after those who have leaked information to the press, describing it as a "criminal act."

another interesting snippet

artappraiser — Wed, 15 Feb 2017 18:27:13 +0000

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another interesting snippet which suggests to me that some leaks might be coming from rather high up in the Trump administration itself:

Another person who speaks frequently with him said Mr. Pence went “ballistic,” or at least what qualifies as ballistic for the coolheaded vice president.

Mr. Pence, Mr. Priebus and Mr. Bannon urged Mr. Trump to fire the national security adviser, according to officials, but the president could not bring himself to do it, in part for fear of losing face. When a reporter on Air Force One heading to Florida on Friday asked him about The Post’s report, Mr. Trump said he had not read it. “I don’t know about that,” he said. “I haven’t seen it.”

Flynn’s Downfall Sprang From

artappraiser — Wed, 15 Feb 2017 17:58:08 +0000

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Flynn’s Downfall Sprang From ‘Eroding Level of Trust’

By PETER BAKER, GLENN THRUSH, MAGGIE HABERMAN, ADAM GOLDMAN and JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS, @ NYTimes, FEB. 14

I give some interesting excerpts from the beginning but I really recommend checking out the whole long article because it carefully tries to reconstruct everything that happened since before inauguration,including in the Obama administration, and with Att. Gen. Yates, from a whole slew of sources:

WASHINGTON — Just days into his new position as President Trump’s national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn found himself in a meeting that any White House official would dread. Face to face with F.B.I. agents, he was grilled about a phone call he had had with Russia’s ambassador.

What exactly Mr. Flynn said has not been disclosed, but current and former government officials said on Tuesday that investigators had come away believing that he was not entirely forthcoming. Soon after, the acting attorney general decided to notify the White House, setting in motion a chain of events that cost Mr. Flynn his job and thrust Mr. Trump’s fledgling administration into a fresh crisis.

Mr. Spicer described a deliberative process in which a new president took his time deciding what to do with Mr. Flynn [.....]

But other aides privately said that Mr. Trump, while annoyed at Mr. Flynn, might not have pushed him out had the situation not attracted such attention from the news media. Instead, according to three people close to Mr. Trump, the president made the decision to cast aside Mr. Flynn in a flash, the catalyst being a news alert of a coming article about the matter.

“Yeah, it’s time,” Mr. Trump told one of his advisers.

Until around that point, Mr. Flynn seemed to think he was going to keep his job [....]

Bruce, I'm surprised you are

Peter — Wed, 15 Feb 2017 17:16:31 +0000

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Bruce, I'm surprised you are joining in this feral, foaming mouthed ankle bighting with the defeated liberal interventionists. Russia may be our advesary at the moment but we aren't at war so commerce and communication are allowed and even in Flynn's case no laws were broken just political correctness was transgressed.

Depending on the Clintonite propaganda organs for leading the charge may keep the snowflakes and true believers wound up but many if not most people know what to expect from these fake news , partisan spin, sourcesd.

Flynn could have been useful to Trump but he was unstable. It's interesting to see the difference in how Trump and his team showed loyalty to a team member and allowed him to try to repair and survive until it was imposssible. This is refreshing after watching Obama quickly throw anyone under the bus that might be a drag on his phony persona.