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WHY?

Richard Day — Wed, 24 Jan 2018 11:39:56 +0000

In reply to A NAKED ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM

WHY?

I write this stuff and 43 folks show up?

Which is to be expected.

hahahahahhaah

So now I get almost 2000 hits on stuff I wrote a year ago?

Here is one thought on this blog.

Dylan wrote

He's just tryin to pull you down into the hole he's in. (well my approximation)

Trump or at least Trumpsters are attempting to pull us into the hole they are in.

We must demur.

WE ARE BETTER THAN THIS?

Hopefully.

When I am stuck...I always end up with this song. Probably onset of dementia (the current diagnosis of our esteemed leader?

This just got to me two

Richard Day — Fri, 28 Apr 2017 18:21:25 +0000

In reply to One of the few joys of this

This just got to me two months late. Peter (not verified)

When you show up, I receive a couple thousand extra hits. hahahahah

It does not make me any money of course. hahahahah

I just didn't realize this. Until now.

Q shows up with no real attacks on me.

And I might receive five thousand extra hits.

Q is more fun of course.

But go ahead and get pissed off.

It is all goooooooooooood.

I miss Resistance of course

Trump now tweets that his

rmrd0000 — Mon, 20 Feb 2017 00:28:27 +0000

In reply to yes. no argument. Not saying

Trump now tweets that his Sweden statement was based on a report on Fox News

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwca...

Slate article provides context

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/02/18/did_fox_news_segment_l...

yes. no argument. Not saying

artappraiser — Sun, 19 Feb 2017 23:28:30 +0000

In reply to I think that the scale of

yes. no argument. Not saying it's the same, but that it's progressed astronomically. What started me off on it was that in 2004-5 I knew commenters with similar opinions and spin as Peter, and then they were stridently accusing the administration of making terrorist attacks up in order to make the populace fearful. And the media making things up, like say, a Sunni attack on a Shia shrine in Pakistan, they would say that Israel and the U.S. and the U.N. were in league with the media. and just made the whole thing up, like with actors. Because they wanted all Muslims to be good and Israel and the U.S. evil. Or with every Iraq explosion, the NYT reporters were in league with the admin in making the fatality figures up. To them, Judith Miller printing admin. spin on WMD's proved that all reporters were making stuff up, and all Sunni Iraqis were beautiful sweet innocent poetic people li the blogger Riverbend. (This is the same exact thing Trump plays off of with his fans, the liberal politically corrected news. They still think it exists, this kind of political correctedness.)

Catch Lori Fryd at Huffpo:

Richard Day — Sun, 19 Feb 2017 22:19:01 +0000

In reply to A NAKED ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM

Catch Lori Fryd at Huffpo:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-emperor-has-no-vocabulary_us_58a6d469e4b026a89a7a2971

I think that the scale of

rmrd0000 — Sun, 19 Feb 2017 22:15:58 +0000

In reply to P.S One of the most

I think that the scale of what is happening in the Trump,administration is something different. CNN and MSNBC have kept Kellyanne Conway off the air because of her lies. Donald Trump blatantly lies about the conditions of black Americans, crime statistics, inauguration crowd size, terrorist attacks, etc. Reinvent Priebus lies. Sean Spicer lies. The ease with which members of the Trump administration lie unprecedented. Fox News, Breitbart, the Washington Examiner, etc. make no attempt to correct the record. This is not a Carville/Matalin case of both sides do it.

The WH is attempting to coopt

ocean-kat — Sun, 19 Feb 2017 20:37:01 +0000

In reply to I second your request.

The WH is attempting to coopt the liberals claim of fake news. The difference is we're not talking about stories we disagree with but objectively false stories like the pedophile sex ring in a pizza shop run by Hillary and other Alex Jones conspiracy theories that have gone from fringe to national prominence with the dumb ass Trump supporters believing them. Time and time again when asked Trump supporters can't come up with a single example of an msm lie. Look at the story that has peter so apocalyptic. Eventually the WH has admitted every part of it was true. Flynn did lie about calling the Russian ambassador and discussing sanctions. He did lie to Pence about it and Pence did spread that lie on national television. Trump did find out about that lie and did nothing for 14 days before he even notified Pence. All the lies and denials came from the WH not the msm and in the end the WH, while not admitting they lied, admitted the truth.

We can debate what those leaks mean. That's a matter of opinion. But the facts remain. They are not even denied by the WH anymore. The claim that the media is lying doesn't hold up. That's just an attempt to stop the debate on these subjects. If it's all lies than we don't even need to talk about it. But that will not work. Maybe the Trump supporters will eat the bullshit from the WH but those who pay attention, and the media, will continue to explore these stories. Because they are true.

Third Reich, Dresden, 1941,

NCD — Sun, 19 Feb 2017 20:17:28 +0000

In reply to You haven't linked to any of

Third Reich, Dresden, 1941, diary of Victor Klemperer. Reading up on the period as an extreme paradigm of authoritarianism, human nature, and violent political propaganda. His diaries can be downloaded free at the Internet Archive.

January 31 - 1941 - On language: Pay attention to: Seizure of power. Not taking office or taking over the government, but "power".
April 22 - 1941 - ....at the Monopol, we heard Goebbels, congratulatory address to the Fuhrer. Clerical pathos in a confident bass. Nuance: "Our victory is as good as certain." (Until now it was always, We have already won, the English just haven't noticed yet.) Most characteristic expression: we do not need to know what the Fuhrer wants to do, we believe in him. Always and everywhere: National Socialism does not want you to think, only believe.

P.S One of the most

artappraiser — Sun, 19 Feb 2017 19:36:58 +0000

In reply to ah yes how well I remember,

P.S One of the most aggravating things for me in the commenting blogosphere continues to be: people spinning their own minds on the news in order to support a politician or political faction. So the irony is so ripe. Call it whatever you like, fake news, spin, etc. My humble opinion, it started with the advent of talk radio and cable tv news talk shows, and was accelerated with the Clinton/Bush Sr./Perot campaigns. It was then that everyone learned what spin was, "war rooms" were revealed and explained, Matalin and Carville became stars. To my dismay, from then on, and especially with the advent of the blogosphere, many more people wanted to do their own amateur spin than those who wanted to deconstruct professional spin. I think this is partly responsible for the virulent partisanism: everyone wants to be a spinmeister, everyone thinks they can do it better than the pros, everyone has bought into the adverserial way of doing things, and therefore presume all news is tainted. Basically, they all bought into post-modernism, where attempts at objectivity by the media are considered hopeless.

Edit to add: I think there is nothing wrong with "he said, she said" journalism. As long as the parties "saying" are clearly identified To me, that's much more honest than trying to spin "the truth." The reader decides. Yes, you have to pick the people you believe. It's not possible to be well read on everything much less an expert on everything. Look at how pitifully transparent "Peter's" spin is to most of us. It's not that hard.

ah yes how well I remember,

artappraiser — Sun, 19 Feb 2017 19:13:52 +0000

In reply to Fake Terrorism

Ah yes how well I remember, back in the early days of teh blogosphere, how lefties favorite thing to do was decry every terrorism warning as a "false flag" meant to scare the American people into approving the invasion of Iraq. Everyone was in on it, Shrub (pick one: the evil genius or miserable failure) Cheney, the CIA, the FBI and all the other intel agencies, allies like Tony Blair, etc. Only France and Germany had any sense, they weren't ascared.