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You never post facts.

rmrd0000 — Sat, 04 Mar 2017 00:31:08 +0000

In reply to 'Mitigated'? I think you

You never post facts.

'Mitigated'? I think you

Peter — Sat, 04 Mar 2017 00:11:43 +0000

In reply to I like the Pew report, but it

'Mitigated'? I think you meant obliterated by facts.

I like the Pew report, but it

CVille Dem — Fri, 03 Mar 2017 22:23:53 +0000

In reply to Democrats tend to carry

I like the Pew report, but it's optimism about trump's weakness is mitigated by the fact that it was published last July.

Under any circumstances there

Flavius — Fri, 03 Mar 2017 03:49:24 +0000

In reply to Democrats tend to carry

Under any circumstances there's going to be a democratic presence even in Mississippi and Alabama. I don´t have the facts but it seems extremely likely that as part of their 2010 (or 2011?) Gerrymandering the Reps created democratic ¨seats¨ specifically to have areas into which to isolate democratic voters so the surrounding districts will be lilly white. Thus creating something bearing a remarkable resemblance to what Trollope would have dismissed as anachronistic ¨rotten boroughs¨.

My completely un- data- based-hunch is that in spending a limited budget the DNC is more apt to get a return on its´ investment where there was a Hillary -first woman president-surge in November rather than in the ¨don'' t throw away you Confederate currency the South will rise again locales.¨ But the DNC will I´m sure will base its decisions on something like the Pew analysis you cite.

Democrats tend to carry

rmrd0000 — Thu, 02 Mar 2017 22:22:21 +0000

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Democrats tend to carry larger urban areas even in places like Georgia and Texas.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/02/us/politics/kushner-flynn-sessions-ru...

A deeper analysis from Pew

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/07/21/the-growing-democratic-d...

Mississippi 2012 vote for

Flavius — Thu, 02 Mar 2017 22:00:29 +0000

In reply to Just some numbers

Mississippi 2012 vote for Romney

White men 88%

White women 89%

The South can turn with urban

rmrd0000 — Thu, 02 Mar 2017 15:10:49 +0000

In reply to It might bewilder you that I

The South can turn with urban whites and minorities as a unified block.

It might bewilder you that I

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 02 Mar 2017 14:50:05 +0000

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It might bewilder you that I regularly communicate with a number of liberals in the south.

Plus there continues to be large emigration from Snow Belt to Sun Belt, while over half of the large number of foreign immigrants settle in California, Texas or Florida - 2 of which I think are often referred to as "The South".

Perhaps these millions of immigrants become super conservative and racist the moment they step toe in the South, but I'd guess it's more dynamic than that, including a fairly large number of Asians settling in.

Or we could just give up - that would feel better....

I´m in agreement that there

Flavius — Thu, 02 Mar 2017 14:35:57 +0000

In reply to Under Prez and Ellison, the

I´m in agreement that there are very few white voters worth going after in the South.

Conversely my South Dakota relatives

voted democrat in November for the first and likely last time but strictly because of their desire to see a woman president.

But whites in the old Confederacy have never accepted Blacks as their equal. The only reason to divert campaign effort there is to assist the black candidates in marginal districts not so gerrymandered as to be a sure thing.

Emotionally I wanted Ellison to win.But practically we couldn´t afford the luxury of doing the right thing.

Under Prez and Ellison, the

rmrd0000 — Thu, 02 Mar 2017 04:09:08 +0000

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Under Prez and Ellison, the DNC will go after those voters. The cynic in me thinks that those white voters are gone. Johnson won the South but there was an abrupt change in voting after he left office.