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“After we came out of the

Flavius — Sat, 11 Mar 2017 04:46:39 +0000

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“After we came out of the church, we stood talking for some time together of Bishop Berkeley’s ingenious sophistry to prove the non-existence of matter, and that every thing in the universe is merely ideal. I observed, that though we are satisfied his doctrine is not true, it is impossible to refute it. I never shall forget the alacrity with which Johnson answered, striking his foot with mighty force against a large stone, till he rebounded from it, ‘I refute it thus.'”(Boswell’s Life of Samuel Johnson, quoted from Wikipedia.)

would only like to add that

artappraiser — Fri, 10 Mar 2017 17:34:16 +0000

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would only like to add that this is nothing new with Trump, predates his involvement in politics, he used the same on the tv show and doing business before that. And that it is almost guileless and natural on his part as he presumes people "get it." He's been using this language probably since college. That is the whole "don't take him literally" thing discussed by the media. His petulance about the media and those who aren't fans and is all wrapped up in his narcissism, he presumes people will "get it.". I read an essay the other day, don't remember who it was by, but it was spot-on about his continual snit fits about size of inaugural audience or ratings of Arnold Schwarzengger replacement: pre-politics he is used to a media that "get it", the use of the language, it is P.R. business that he thouught himself good at. NY media would fall in line when he called them because they wanted to by his spin and language. So what is going on is that his narcissist feelings are really hurt,he reacts like a baby that everyone doesn't love what he is doing, doesn't get the language and appreciate it, as: the genius of an ultimate alpha who just wants to help, like a good father.

Is it totalitarian? yes. If you have every gotten deeply into the weeds of the studies of mysteries of like Hitler's rise to power or the mystery of other tolitarianisms, this is precisely how it works: good, well meaning father. There are actually nuanced differences between these words: "dictatorship" and :"totalitarianism."

he's not an expert but he

artappraiser — Fri, 10 Mar 2017 17:15:15 +0000

In reply to I think a lot of his

he's not an expert but he definitely is a heartfelt true believer libertarian > pull yourself up by your own bootstraps like he did. If forced to give something to the entire population, he'd probably not be that bothered giving everyone an I-Phone and I-Pad instead of health insurance or even the social security survivors he got, so that they can empower themselves and make their own choices. I imagine if he had his druthers now that we are all stuck with this huge medical industrial complex that is intangled with the gummint so that any surgery might kill the patient: vouchers, vouchers, vouchers whenever possible.

Coincidentally, the German

NCD — Fri, 10 Mar 2017 17:10:11 +0000

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Coincidentally, the German word for 'action' meant a roundup and forced deportation of Jews for 'resettlement' ie, shipment to the labor/death camps. (link: 'hour of action'.)

The language Trump uses is that of a demagogue. See below.

The Trump use of language utilizes the use of superlatives and words connoting violence and the unrestrained wielding of power.

This aspect of authoritarian leadership language was examined and recorded in contemporaneous entries in Victor Klemperer's I Will Bear Witness, what he called 'lingua tertii empirii.' (language of the 3rd Reich).......Trump: gory, bloodbath, graveyard, rapists, The Wall, disaster, maniacally (Bannon at CPAC).. etc.)

Huxley, Brave New World Revisited:

The demagogic propagandist must therefore be consistently dogmatic. All his statements are made without qualification. There are no grays in his picture of the world; everything is either diabolically black or celestially white. In Hitler’s words, the propagandist should adopt “a systematically one-sided attitude towards every problem that has to be dealt with.” He must never admit that he might be wrong or that people with a different point of view might be even partially right. Opponents should not be argued with; they should be attacked, shouted down, or, if they become too much of a nuisance, liquidated. The morally squeamish intellectual may be shocked by this kind of thing. But the masses are always convinced that “right is on the side of the active aggressor.

I think a lot of his

rmrd0000 — Fri, 10 Mar 2017 16:47:45 +0000

In reply to p.s. there's more applicable

I think a lot of his economics rep is hype

https://newrepublic.com/article/107242/how-paul-ryan-convinced-washingto...

Edit to add:

Another media created expert. He is telegenic

Is it just me, or does anyone

CVille Dem — Fri, 10 Mar 2017 16:43:14 +0000

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Is it just me, or does anyone else think that the wall may really be to hold us captive? Once the wall is up, trump declares war on Canada so that anyone trying to escape northwards will be shot. LOL

p.s. there's more applicable

artappraiser — Fri, 10 Mar 2017 16:24:51 +0000

In reply to we disagree, I think it's

p.s. there's more of what I would call "applicable info." in the "Personal Life" section of his wikipedia entry:

Because of a family history of fatal heart attacks before age 60, Ryan pursues an intense cross-training fitness program called P90X.[159] Ryan has always been a fitness enthusiast and was a personal trainer when he came out of college. About P90X, he said, "It works because its called muscle confusion. It hits your body in many different ways. Pull-ups, push-ups, sit-ups, lots of cardio, karate, jump training. It has results, it works. It's a good workout." [160][161]

In a 2010 Politico interview he said that he weighed 163 pounds and maintained his body fat percentage between 6 to 8%. Tony Horton, creator of P90X, who has personally trained Ryan many times, reiterated the claim saying, "He is very, very, very lean. I know what 6 to 8 percent body fat looks like, and there's no fat anywhere on the man. I'm around 9 percent and he's much leaner than I am. He’s easily 6 to 8 percent body fat. You just have to eat right and exercise every day, and that’s what he does."[160][161][162] He is "fairly careful" about what he eats[18] and makes his own bratwurst and Polish sausage.[12]

In a radio interview Ryan claimed that he had once run a marathon in under three hours;[163] he later stated that he forgot his actual time and was just trying to state what he thought was a normal time.[164] His one official marathon time is recorded as slightly over four hours.[165][166]

we disagree, I think it's

artappraiser — Fri, 10 Mar 2017 16:15:36 +0000

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We disagree, I think it's crucial for all to understand that he gets all that. From his wikipedia entry:

When he was 16, Ryan found his 55-year-old father lying dead in bed of a heart attack.[18][21] Following the death of his father, Ryan's grandmother moved in with the family, and because she had Alzheimer's, Ryan helped care for her while his mother commuted to college in Madison, Wisconsin.[21] From the time of his father's death until his 18th birthday, Ryan received Social Security survivors benefits, which were saved for his college education.[25][26][27] His mother remarried, to Bruce Douglas.[9][28]

Ryan has a bachelor's degree in economics and political science from Miami University in Oxford, Ohio,[29] where he became interested in the writings of Friedrich Hayek, Ludwig von Mises, and Milton Friedman.[21] He often visited the office of libertarian professor Richard Hart to discuss the theories of these economists and of Ayn Rand.[21][30]

Actually, I do think Ryan is

rmrd0000 — Fri, 10 Mar 2017 14:58:27 +0000

In reply to p.s. recent news supports my

Actually, I do think Ryan is an idiot. He does not understand that insurance involves healthy people covering the costs of sick people.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/paul-ryan-insurance-twitter_us_58c21...

p.s. recent news supports my

artappraiser — Fri, 10 Mar 2017 14:32:10 +0000

In reply to Oh I think this is definitely

p.s. recent news supports my above interpretation, as with the pushback he's getting, Ryan is now saying things like: voting for this doesn't mean there won't be amendments and changes right away....he just really wants to ram something, anything through for some reason. Don't forget he's far from an idiot about this, is trying to force this sloppy bill for a reason gleaned through experience.