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Uh, ocean rise is only 1/8 an

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 20 Mar 2017 16:34:07 +0000

In reply to The land based process is so

Uh, ocean rise is only 1/8 an inch per year - it's been a couple inches in 20 years.

Sinkholes? could be from fracking, Russians boring hole into underground gas coverns, something to do with permafrost, a few other guesses. Me, I think it's Jules Verne's revenge, i.e. Son of the Return of Journey to the Center of the Earth Part III.

It's probably impossible to

Peter — Mon, 20 Mar 2017 16:05:56 +0000

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It's probably impossible to slow ths growth of this Warmer hysteria you are experiencing but even the IPCC report on sea-level rise doesn't completely support your mad predictions. They stated clearly that there was 'no' increase in the rate of sea-level rise in all of the 20th century, none, nada, zip. Yet humans rapidly and massively generated co2 especially in the last 50 years.

The Warmers love their feedback loops for without them co2 just doesn't have the warming power their Rube Goldberg climate change predictions are based on. The planet is warming, climate is changing and the seas will continue to rise probably more rapidly but there is no need to buy a houseboat yet.

Your sinkhole picture is cool and spooky but has nothing to do with climate change, it's caused by the action of underground rivers or the lack of water in them.

Even the Black Plague

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 20 Mar 2017 15:54:57 +0000

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Even the Black Plague eventually flattened out (after taking 1/3 of Europe's population with it).

What's the real probability that we'll ever reach 800ppm?

The land based process is so

jollyroger — Mon, 20 Mar 2017 14:24:09 +0000

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The land based process is so far along it's blowing fuckin' holes in Siberia like 20 per day.

I wish to report my [premonition (in support of which, I had a Trump premonition also a mets in world series (disclaimer, I thought they'd win--against all reason at the time).

Sea level rise of 5ft within ten years (!!!maldita!!!).

There are so fuckin many feedback loops poised to kick in at once it's scarier than shit.

With all due respect to Desi up there.

I take it that you believe

jollyroger — Mon, 20 Mar 2017 14:19:14 +0000

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I take it that you believe the name"350.org" represented a number pulled from Bill McKibben's ass.

Sadly, no.

Also, as if ...(ed note: huh?--oh, as if the rate were really gonna flatten out )

I just linked a fairly

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 20 Mar 2017 10:12:05 +0000

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I just linked a fairly obvious news release on CO2 - I hadn't intended on addressing every aspect of global warming.

You're correct that methane

acanuck — Mon, 20 Mar 2017 07:22:22 +0000

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You're correct that methane from thawing permafrost is not yet a major driver of global warming. But even the most optimistic scenarios show human activity pushing average global temperatures higher for decades. We have already reached the point where permafrost has begun to thaw. That releases more methane, and allows less ice and snow to accumulate, lowering the planet's albedo or reflectivity. Earth gets even hotter. So we're moving from a situation we can theoretically control (how much CO2 we pump into the atmosphere) to one driven by the planet's entirely natural response to the conditions we have created. I'm sure Earth will find its balance (it's done so repeatedly), but not sure we'll like our role in it. OK, enough negativity for one night.

Methane concentrations have

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 19 Mar 2017 18:50:00 +0000

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Methane concentrations have gone up 11% in 30 years. Methane's at 1.78 ppm, CO2's at 400ppm, so CO2 is >10x the problem if your 20x multiplier is right, but only 1 of these has been increasing significantly during this period. (Direct sun warming is much greater than greenhouse effect, but it's a relative constant that we can't change anyway). When cloned/cultured meat comes into play big time (20 years?), a large chunk of yearly methane release will disappear as well.

I wrote that thawing of

acanuck — Sun, 19 Mar 2017 18:25:41 +0000

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I wrote that thawing of Arctic permafrost could set "millions of years" of frozen vegetation free to produce methane. But the depth of permafrost varies a lot, and I don't really know how much potential methane it contains. I've read it's a lot.

What we do know is that the Arctic is already warming at about twice the rate of the rest of the planet, and that methane is roughly 20 times better than CO2 at trapping heat. And both gases are reinforcing the same change in climate. Methane release is real:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YegdEOSQotE

Didn't expect cheering.

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 19 Mar 2017 15:24:00 +0000

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Didn't expect cheering. Surprised at the knee-capping and sniping.