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Insults do not constitute a

ocean-kat — Fri, 24 Mar 2017 23:42:51 +0000

In reply to You are, generally, quite the

Insults do not constitute a convincing argument. And since you are a complete stranger to me who I will never meet nor have a private conversation with, your insults leave me totally unaffected.

Not every post by a Russian expresses the views of all Russians. Just as not every post by an American expresses the views of all Americans. In fact any given post by a Russian or an American may represent the view of only a slim minority of Russians or Americans. My main point was that Natasha's attempt to separate the Russian people from the actions of the Putin government was flawed. While it might be true in her case or even a minority of Russians the evidence clearly showed overwhelming support among Russians for Putin. Natasha or anyone was certainly free to dispute that evidence. But I think I was on very solid ground.

Here's the thing chthonic, in all the years I've been here I have never seen a blog with comments disabled. I have seen people who wished to post here without comments and who have requested, cajoled, and like you insulted people who disagree to get them out of the comment section of their blogs. None of those attempts have ever been successful. Perhaps that's because those who run this site welcome debate. They seem to insist on that option so I feel comfortable in considering everything posted here as open to debate. This may be of particular interest to you, I've found that insulting people was by far the least effective means of stopping people who disagree from posting in their comment section. You might want to reconsider your strategy.

Yeah, that's dagblog,

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 24 Mar 2017 23:08:26 +0000

In reply to You are, generally, quite the

Yeah, that's dagblog, segregated rooms by ethnic group, religion, and gender/sexual predilection. They even gave me own cause they couldn't categorize me.

You are, generally, quite the

nothere — Fri, 24 Mar 2017 22:51:01 +0000

In reply to I, and others, disagreed with

You are, generally, quite the typist. From what I can see, you type and you type and you type. I'm pretty sure that, in the post Natasha made, you are the most prolific replier. What of it? Well, I'm not actually sure. I don't see you actually having a topic proposed by Natasha to debate...unless you think that a request is an invitation to debate? I also don't see anything in one of your replies that proposes anything coherently resembling a topic; where something like "Resolved, foo is bar" is somehow in evidence.

What I do see, clearly expressed by multiple other persons, is a response to her request taking the rough form of "yeah, you have a fair point. I'll try to be aware." Other persons, including you if I understand your reply in this thread, decided to explain things Russian to an actual Russian. I leave it as an exercise to any other interested reader whether or not that was flavored with mansplaining.

I'm going nowhere, thanks. Do

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 24 Mar 2017 22:48:29 +0000

In reply to Move on. Nothing requires you

I'm going nowhere, thanks. Do as you like.

Move on. Nothing requires you

nothere — Fri, 24 Mar 2017 22:40:27 +0000

In reply to Behave myself, eh? Stunning.

Move on. Nothing requires you to continue to follow-up to anything in this, nor any other, thread.

Hint: there is a reason I avoid your sub-blog. I'm pretty sure that, in its entirety, you'll find in it no comment from me.

I, and others, disagreed with

ocean-kat — Fri, 24 Mar 2017 22:27:36 +0000

In reply to I'm asking an adult to

I, and others, disagreed with Natasha's blog. She decided not to engage in debate defending her opinions. She is free to do that but debate is what we do here. One cannot demand other people change their behavior. You must convince other people that your arguments are valid. You are free to pick up her banner and become an advocate for her cause but you have the same task. You must be willing to engage in debate and you must come up with convincing arguments to support your opinions. You're not the first person to come here and try to kick people who disagree off their blog's comment section. I've never seen it work in the past nor do I expect it to succeed with you. Because debate is what we do here.

Behave myself, eh? Stunning.

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 24 Mar 2017 21:52:04 +0000

In reply to I'm asking an adult to

Behave myself, eh? Stunning.

https://youtu.be/PQRbeunfbDE

I'm asking an adult to

nothere — Fri, 24 Mar 2017 21:39:25 +0000

In reply to You are asking an adult to

I'm asking an adult to respect a request from a blogger on this site. WRT to daily use of language...that's actually your argument? That, currently, some group you've identified as 'we' use language in a particular manner?

Once, not so long ago, daily use of language involved a racial obscenity directed at African-Americans; I include the plethora of other racial insults by reference; other examples are available; for instance, a daily use of sex or gender-oriented insults. The list is probably effectively infinite.

I fail to see how or why 'we' should receive any sort of accommodation, just because they are a 'we'.

You really need to move on from commenting in this thread, as invited. No, really: move on, and if you cannot behave in keeping with what I've asked, you are as empowered to refrain from future interaction as you are obviously also empowered to continue to do what you are doing.

My guess (and it's just a guess) is you probably don't really want to do that latter thing.

You are asking an adult to

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 24 Mar 2017 14:17:24 +0000

In reply to If you (NB: the singular) are

You are asking an adult to hold his tongue and not use language in the way we daily use it.

I'm used to my kids getting these kinds of requests from their teachers, which annoys them to no end, and I end up fighting with schools to defend their right to an opinion. Thus my retort at being treated like a 12-year-old.

If you can point out more specifically how my intro was an insult to you rather than deflecting a perceived insult to me, happy to listen.

If you (NB: the singular) are

nothere — Fri, 24 Mar 2017 12:22:05 +0000

In reply to Please, we're not 12 and

If you (NB: the singular) are what you imply, then you should realize that the request made of you is a courtesy of low-cost to you personally that you could extend. That you buck that request, and lead with an insult, indicates that mentally and socially you are, in fact, the equivalent of a twelve-year old male of a type currently ignoring basic net-wide civility in discourse. Leading with an insult renders the rest of your post uninteresting. Moving forward, I invite you to refrain from following up to any of my posts since you are incapable of conforming to what you require of others...to behave maturely in your narratives.