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Single payer definitely got a

artappraiser — Fri, 31 Mar 2017 07:17:51 +0000

Single payer definitely got a lot of buzz today, almost spooky:

New York State Inches Closer To Single-Payer Plan With Pickup Of New Support

But critics wonder whether the additional backing is merely symbolic.

By Ryan Grim , Daniel Marans , Jeffrey Young @ Huffpo, March 30

The push to implement a “Medicare for all”-type system in New York state just took a significant step forward Wednesday. Sen. Jeffrey Klein, who heads the Independent Democratic Conference in the state Senate, plans to co-sponsor the measure, and will bring along the remaining holdout in his caucus, his spokeswoman Candice Giove told The Huffington Post.

That gives the measure the unanimous support of the IDC, a crucial, and often recalcitrant, bloc of lawmakers. “All members of the independent conference will become cosponsors of that bill,” Giove said [....]

And also March 30 @ WaPo,

artappraiser — Fri, 31 Mar 2017 06:52:51 +0000

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And also March 30 @ WaPo, ashocking op-ed coming from: Charles Krauthammer (!!!) where he envisions a Sept. revival of a GOP plan, and after that...maybe single payer, supported by Trump (!!!)

The Road to Single-payer Health Care

[....] Acceptance of its major premise — that no one be denied health care — is more widespread than ever. Even House Speaker Paul Ryan avers that “our goal is to give every American access to quality, affordable health care,” making universality an essential premise of his own reform. And look at how sensitive and defensive Republicans have been about the possibility of people losing coverage in any Obamacare repeal.

A broad national consensus is developing that health care is indeed a right. This is historically new. And it carries immense implications for the future. It suggests that we may be heading inexorably to a government-run, single-payer system. It’s what Barack Obama once admitted he would have preferred but didn’t think the country was ready for. It may be ready now.

As Obamacare continues to unravel, it won’t take much for Democrats to abandon that Rube Goldberg wreckage and go for the simplicity and the universality of Medicare-for-all. Republicans will have one last chance to try to persuade the country to remain with a market-based system, preferably one encompassing all the provisions that, for procedural reasons, had been left out of their latest proposal.

Don’t be surprised, however, if, in the end, single-payer wins out. Indeed, I wouldn’t be terribly surprised if Donald Trump, reading the zeitgeist, pulls the greatest 180 since Disraeli “dished the Whigs” in 1867 (by radically expanding the franchise) and joins the single-payer side.

Trump was right about health

artappraiser — Fri, 31 Mar 2017 06:39:52 +0000

In reply to Trumpcare failed because....?

Trump was right about health care for most of his life

By Fareed Zakaria, op-ed @ Washington Post, March 20

[....] Trump has now taken up the call to repeal Obamacare. But until recently, health care was actually one of the rare issues on which he had spoken out, before his campaign, with remarkable consistency. In his 2000 book “The America We Deserve,” he wrote:

“I’m a conservative on most issues but a liberal on this one. We should not hear so many stories of families ruined by healthcare expenses. . . . We must have universal healthcare. . . . The Canadian plan . . . helps Canadians live longer and healthier than Americans. There are fewer medical lawsuits, less loss of labor to sickness, and lower costs to companies paying for the medical care of their employees. . . . We need, as a nation, to reexamine the single-payer plan, as many individual states are doing.”

Trump was right on this issue for much of his life. He has now caved to special interests and an ideology unmoored by facts. He could simply return to his convictions, reach out to Democrats and help the United States solve its health-care crisis.

Washington won’t decide

artappraiser — Thu, 30 Mar 2017 03:36:58 +0000

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Washington won’t decide Obamacare’s future this year. Topeka will.

Obamacare isn’t shrinking. It’s actually expanding.

Updated by Sarah Kliff @ Vox.com, Mar 29, 2017, 5:40pm EDT

This is not a joke! My favorite news publications right now are the Kansas City Star and the Lawrence Journal-World. Both are covering the twists and turns of the state's Medicaid expansion battle. That, and not the Washington debate over Obamacare repeal, is the key health policy fight to watch right now.

Republican efforts on Obamacare repeal are stalled. There is no plan that can get enough support to move through Congress. Chris Jacobs, writing at the Federalist, has an especially good synopsis of why this problem seems intractable. He writes that there are "fundamental disagreements within the Republican party and the conservative movement about Obamacare." Namely:[....]

Next up: NO WALL

artappraiser — Tue, 28 Mar 2017 09:58:18 +0000

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Next up: NO WALL

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/border-wall-trump-congress-funding-236561

(But of course, if Mexico would pre-pay, they'd no doubt go along. )

Trump tweet on topic;

artappraiser — Mon, 27 Mar 2017 00:05:57 +0000

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New Trump tweet on topic:

Democrats are smiling in D.C. that the Freedom Caucus, with the help of Club For Growth and Heritage, have saved Planned Parenthood & Ocare!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 26, 2017

& also

Freedom Caucus Loses Member Amid Trump Criticism for Health Care

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/03/26/rep_ted_poe_leaves_freedom_caucus_amid_trump_recriminations_for_health_care.html

Excellent link. One thing it

artappraiser — Sun, 26 Mar 2017 21:25:08 +0000

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Excellent link. One thing it makes clear, as if we didn't know it already: ideological purity and making sausage are in direct opposition.

Ideological cussedness:

Anon — Sun, 26 Mar 2017 17:26:35 +0000

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Ideological cussedness:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-two-cracks-in-the-republican-pa...

What I saw bouncing around

artappraiser — Sun, 26 Mar 2017 16:54:21 +0000

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What I saw bouncing around all the Sunday TV news shows and the main political sites:

an awful lot of spin, conspicuous, along the lines of "let's start over, do it right, reach out to the Democrats and work with them, because our people need some reform".

Including a particularly impassioned interview with Gov. Kasich on CNN, going to D.C. next week....

I have no clue who is behind this, but I will say that in all of it, I sensed this meme: let's fuggeaboutit those Freedom Caucus freaks, we're going nowhere with them.

Just sayin'

How does that relate to

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 26 Mar 2017 14:53:51 +0000

In reply to This piece frames the failure

How does that relate to nostrums on the left? Is now really the time to turn around and push for Medicare-for-all, or will it simply highlight how powerless and unprepared for that fight *we on the left* are as well? Your quote seems to fit those who don't have to fear winning elections as well.