dagblog - Comments for "US attacks Syrian air base with cruise missiles"

Re: There you have it - wars

artappraiser — Thu, 13 Apr 2017 06:25:10 +0000

Re: There you have it - wars increase popularity Not exactly in this case:

Pew April 5-11 poll: By a wide margin (58% to 36%), Americans approve of the U.S. missile strikes against Syria in response to reports of the use of chemical weapons by Bashar al-Assad’s government. By a comparable margin (61% to 32%), the public says that Donald Trump does not have a clear plan for dealing with the situation in Syria.

If you can do some good,do it

Flavius — Sun, 09 Apr 2017 04:25:30 +0000

In reply to What is the end point? From

If you can do some good,do it.

Trump somewhat increased the odds against Syria using chemical weapons again. And put a finger on the scale against any one else doing so.

I plead guilty to being overly convinced by the talking heads´ claim there´s a fragile consensus against chemical warfare. Whatever bad stuff continues , it´s a good thing to reinforce that.

Perhaps - we're still playing

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 08 Apr 2017 17:42:11 +0000

In reply to On our anthem, I feel it

Perhaps - we're still playing the righteous underdog, absurd as it is. We were pretty entrenched and uppity by1812, after the Louisiana Purchase and stealing most Indian Territory in the Southeast so as to claim everything west to the Pacific. The war did nothing to reverse that uppitiness aside from let us know Canada was a bridge too far, literally. BTW, I think the song was written in aa battle *after* peace had already been signed in Ghent (like New Orleans), but I may have the timing off. Anyway, the Brits were done, and

On our anthem, I feel it

artappraiser — Sat, 08 Apr 2017 16:36:16 +0000

In reply to Got to say I've always been

On our anthem, I feel it behooves to remember that it was written when we were not top dog. It's the righteous underdog meme overall.

Got to say I've always been

artappraiser — Sat, 08 Apr 2017 16:34:21 +0000

In reply to Ha. I love the articles

Got to say I've always been a mite uncomfortable with our national anthem. But one thing it does do is remind you that shock and awe really does work on a lot of people.

To be fair to the talking heads, they did the same thing when George Bush Sr. and Bill Clinton lobbed missles. Lots of people of all kinds of persuasions think they prevent war. I especially recall GOP Congresspersons getting all het up with Bill Clinton "spending" down all our missiles just to project his own strength, they wanted to save them to project a GOP president's strength, I guessed.

Ha. I love the articles

Obey — Sat, 08 Apr 2017 16:28:04 +0000

In reply to Precisely. He doesn't want to

Ha. I love the articles describing staffers advising briefers that Trump is a "visual" learner. Less text, more picture books. I laugh. But then I see Brian Williams and Fareed Zakaria all excited about the pretty exploding bombs.

Who are the fucking short-attention-span impulsive morans in this story...?

Ah thanks. ok. Was looking

Obey — Sat, 08 Apr 2017 16:22:44 +0000

In reply to Telegraph headline 5 hours

Ah thanks. ok. Was looking around for a credible source on this kind of thing.

I think it was done to make

artappraiser — Sat, 08 Apr 2017 16:20:30 +0000

In reply to Telegraph headline 5 hours

I think it was done to make Trump look good.

Yes of course, BUT THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF HIS RAISON D'ETRE. AND HIS BELIEFS ABOUT THE U.S. That's what he's said from the getgo: believes U.S. foreign policy should be: look strong.

MY POINT: be careful in your conspiracizing not to get carried away by ~~Bush~~ Trump Derangement Syndrome. Team Trump is still the gang who can't shoot straight, can't even figure out how to get along with a Republican Congress, remember? Can't be evil geniuses and stupid idiots at the same time.

Putin's another story, I'd be open to any argument that has Team Trump being gamed by Team Putin.

Precisely. He doesn't want to

artappraiser — Sat, 08 Apr 2017 15:56:18 +0000

In reply to People are still dying by

Precisely. He doesn't want to save Syrians. He just thinks countries at war shouldn't be able to use chemical weapons on little babies. Because: he saw the pictures of what that looks like.

Makes me think smart activists that want to change his opinion on something should get pictures with whatever it is horribly affecting little babies, and then, because one can't get those pictures on his desk, make sure Fox News makes a big deal about it.

Telegraph headline 5 hours

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 08 Apr 2017 15:53:00 +0000

In reply to This is a good point The

Telegraph headline 5 hours ago:

"Syrian warplanes take off once again from air base bombed by US Tomahawks"

Sure, we were out to "downgrade their air support capacity", but "Observers had reported the base had been badly destroyed by the 1,000lb warheads and that several planes and a runway had been put out of service. However it is thought that an advance warning given by the US to Russia allowed Syria enough time to remove many of its aircraft before the raid. "

So what's the real skinny? A slap saying "don't do this again, we mean it, man...."? I don't buy it. I think it was done to make Trump look good, distract from Russiagate. The whole performance was too pat and works out to all gain, 0 loss for Putin, Assad & Trump. (not like it encouraged rebels in any way)

Still have to reconcile with Trump's initial response, but he's a slow learner and largely goes unscripted, or maybe they wanted him to have that "learning" moment where he's actually mulling over a response. Completely unbelievable given his M.O., but I won't say I've got all the pieces explained to a T.