dagblog - Comments for "U.S. Navy sends strike group toward Korean peninsula" http://dagblog.com/link/us-navy-sends-strike-group-toward-korean-peninsula-22277 Comments for "U.S. Navy sends strike group toward Korean peninsula" en P.S.: A reminder from April 5 http://dagblog.com/comment/236628#comment-236628 <a id="comment-236628"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/236627#comment-236627">U.S. Says Consensus Reached</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>P.S.: A reminder from April 5:</p> <p><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bannon-removed-from-security-council-as-mcmaster-asserts-control/2017/04/05/ffa8b5d2-1a3a-11e7-bcc2-7d1a0973e7b2_story.html">Bannon removed from security council as McMaster asserts control</a></p> <p>and then from April 12</p> <p><a href="http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/4/12/15270756/steve-bannon-trump-new-york-post">Trump just threw Steve Bannon under the bus and backed it up over him</a></p> </div></div></div> Sun, 16 Apr 2017 20:05:37 +0000 artappraiser comment 236628 at http://dagblog.com U.S. Says Consensus Reached http://dagblog.com/comment/236627#comment-236627 <a id="comment-236627"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/236620#comment-236620">the only thing the piehole is</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><a href="https://www.rferl.org/a/korea-us-pence-visit-south-after-north-missile-test/28433278.html" target="_blank">U.S. Says Consensus Reached With China To Stop North Korea Missile Tests </a></p> <p>@ Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, April 16</p> <p>Refers to McMaster on ABC's "This Week"  this morning on North Korea, you can see that @ either t<a href="http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/video/mcmaster-international-consensus-north-korea-threat-continue-46828122" target="_blank">his video</a> or <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/week-transcript-high-alert-north-korea/story?id=46819310" target="_blank">the McMaster section of this transcript</a>. I watched the video.  Nothing's going to happen right away. They are going to work with China on it. They also intend to act in concert with our allies. Including all of NATO. McMaster sounded so very positive about China it was almost shocking.</p> <p>In other related news,<a href="http://www.latimes.com/world/asia/la-fg-south-korea-pence-20170416-story.html"> Pence spoke to American and South Korean military today in South Korea</a>.</p> </div></div></div> Sun, 16 Apr 2017 19:51:00 +0000 artappraiser comment 236627 at http://dagblog.com the only thing the piehole is http://dagblog.com/comment/236620#comment-236620 <a id="comment-236620"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/236618#comment-236618">Very interesting, AA.  Thanks</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>the only thing the piehole is saying so far this morning, @8:18am, appears that Xi is his new best boyfriend:</p> <p> </p> <div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>Why would I call China a currency manipulator when they are working with us on the North Korean problem? We will see what happens!</p> — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/853583417916755968">April 16, 2017</a></blockquote> </div> <p> </p> <p>followed 6 minutes later by happy happy:</p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>Happy Easter to everyone!</p> — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/853584968047636480">April 16, 2017</a></blockquote> </div> <p> </p> <p>Just had this itch to do a tweet on the reversal on currency manipulation on Easter morning for no apparent reason?</p> <p>Must have been quite <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/236496#comment-236496">the 10 minute lecture @ Mar-a_Lago</a>....</p> </div></div></div> Sun, 16 Apr 2017 13:51:29 +0000 artappraiser comment 236620 at http://dagblog.com Very interesting, AA.  Thanks http://dagblog.com/comment/236618#comment-236618 <a id="comment-236618"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/236614#comment-236614">Your .S. note madPe me go to</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Very interesting, AA.  Thanks for that link.  If trump manages to keep his pie-hole (and tweety fingers) silent on this I will be surprised.  I hope he does, though.</p> </div></div></div> Sun, 16 Apr 2017 12:53:02 +0000 CVille Dem comment 236618 at http://dagblog.com Your .S. note madPe me go to http://dagblog.com/comment/236614#comment-236614 <a id="comment-236614"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/236610#comment-236610">I still think that Kim is</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Your P.S. made me go to and find a suprise at <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/15/world/asia/north-korea-missiles-pyongyang-kim-jong-un.html?action=click&amp;contentCollection=Travel&amp;module=Trending&amp;version=Full&amp;region=Marginalia&amp;pgtype=article"> the new NYTimes article reporting the failed launch</a> when I might not have. Trump probably will not be rubbing it in because we might have had something to do with it failing and that would be due to Obama's program:</p> <blockquote> <p>[...] The timing was a deep embarrassment for the North’s leader, <a class="meta-per" href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/k/kim_jongun/index.html?inline=nyt-per" title="More articles about Kim Jong-un.">Kim Jong-un</a>, because the missile appeared to have been launched to show off his daring as a fleet of American warships approached his country to deter provocations.</p> <p>Cmdr. Dave Benham, a spokesman for the United States Pacific Command, said the military had “detected and tracked what we assess was a North Korean missile launch at 11:21 a.m. Hawaii time April 15.”</p> <p>The missile blew up almost immediately, and the type of missile involved is still being assessed, he said.</p> <p><strong>Over the past three years, a covert war over the missile program has broken out between North Korea and the United States. As the North’s skills grew, President Barack Obama ordered <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/04/world/asia/north-korea-missile-program-sabotage.html?_r=0">a surge in strikes against the missile launches</a>, The New York Times reported last month</strong>,<strong> including through electronic-warfare techniques. It is unclear how successful the program has been, because it is almost impossible to tell whether any individual launch failed because of sabotage, faulty engineering or bad luck. But the North’s launch-failure rate has been extraordinarily high since Mr. Obama first accelerated the program.</strong></p> <div> <div> <p>In an unusually worded statement that left hanging the question of whether the United States played any role in the latest launch’s failure<strong>, Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said: “The president and his military team are aware of North Korea’s most recent unsuccessful missile launch. The president has no further comment.</strong>” [....]</p> </div> </div> </blockquote> <p>Even if this failure wasn't our fault, it wouldn't be wise to make it sound like it wasn't. Neither is Trump wont to give Obama credit even if Mattis advised that it would be smart to suggest we had something to do with it, which he clearly thinks shouldn't be done. Cheshire cat is the way they've decided to go.</p> </div></div></div> Sun, 16 Apr 2017 10:48:14 +0000 artappraiser comment 236614 at http://dagblog.com I still think that Kim is http://dagblog.com/comment/236610#comment-236610 <a id="comment-236610"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/236597#comment-236597">NYT just posted an article,</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I still think that Kim is more intelligent than Trump.  That is pretty scary.</p> <p>PS:  Just got the news that N Korea launched a missile that blew up.  I'm sure trump will rub that in, because how could he not?</p> </div></div></div> Sat, 15 Apr 2017 23:52:14 +0000 CVille Dem comment 236610 at http://dagblog.com Trump is getting his http://dagblog.com/comment/236606#comment-236606 <a id="comment-236606"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/236496#comment-236496">Trump on North Korea: “After</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><em>Trump is getting his information about East Asian affairs from the leader of America’s largest rival in the region. </em></p> <p>This is an important point I've been thinking about. This is the first time I've seen anyone in the news media bring it up, though there's no discussion of it in the article. Everybody is focused on the "Nobody knew it was this complicated" meme when in fact everyone moderately knowledgeable knew. The other point is that whatever Xi told Trump to get him up to speed in the 10 minute history lesson was likely a very propagandized version.  And Trump bought it. A briefing paper by experts from the state department on Chinese/North Korean history as it pertains to the current nuclear problem would likely have been very different.</p> </div></div></div> Sat, 15 Apr 2017 22:49:31 +0000 ocean-kat comment 236606 at http://dagblog.com NYT just posted an article, http://dagblog.com/comment/236597#comment-236597 <a id="comment-236597"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/us-navy-sends-strike-group-toward-korean-peninsula-22277">U.S. Navy sends strike group toward Korean peninsula</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>NYT just posted an article, with the rundown on the missiles on view at today's parade, with analysts quotes:</p> <p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/15/world/asia/north-korea-missiles-pyongyang-kim-jong-un.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/15/world/asia/north-korea-missiles-pyongyang-kim-jong-un.html</a></p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Sat, 15 Apr 2017 19:37:26 +0000 artappraiser comment 236597 at http://dagblog.com Salvaged North Korean rocket http://dagblog.com/comment/236520#comment-236520 <a id="comment-236520"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/us-navy-sends-strike-group-toward-korean-peninsula-22277">U.S. Navy sends strike group toward Korean peninsula</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/kim-jong-uns-rockets-are-getting-an-important-boost--from-china/2017/04/12/4893b0be-1a43-11e7-bcc2-7d1a0973e7b2_story.html">Salvaged North Korean rocket parts show key components were supplied by Chinese firms</a></p> <p>headline story @ The Washington Post right now</p> <blockquote> <p>Despite Beijing's public efforts to rein in North Korea’s provocative behavior, Chinese companies continue to act as enablers, providing the isolated communist regime with technology and hardware that allow its missiles to take flight, according to current and former U.S. and U.N. officials and independent weapons experts.</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Thu, 13 Apr 2017 15:49:43 +0000 artappraiser comment 236520 at http://dagblog.com Trump on North Korea: “After http://dagblog.com/comment/236496#comment-236496 <a id="comment-236496"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/us-navy-sends-strike-group-toward-korean-peninsula-22277">U.S. Navy sends strike group toward Korean peninsula</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><blockquote> <p><a href="http://www.vox.com/2017/4/12/15279654/trump-north-korea-xi-10-minutes">Trump on North Korea: “After listening for 10 minutes, I realized it’s not so easy”</a></p> <div>By Zack Beauchamp @ Vox.com, April 12</div> <div> <p>President Donald Trump recounted an absolutely astounding detail about one of his conversations with Chinese President Xi Jinping in comments published by <a href="https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-says-he-offered-china-better-trade-terms-in-exchange-for-help-on-north-korea-1492027556">the Wall Street Journal</a> on Wednesday afternoon. Apparently, Trump came into his first meeting with the Chinese leader, in early April, convinced that China could simply eliminate the threat posed by North Korea’s nuclear program. Xi then patiently explained Chinese-Korean history to Trump — who then promptly changed his mind.</p> <p>“After listening for 10 minutes, I realized it’s not so easy,” the president told the Journal. “I felt pretty strongly that they had a tremendous power [over] North Korea. ... But it’s not what you would think.”</p> <p>Four quick observations about this: [.....]</p> </div> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Thu, 13 Apr 2017 05:45:13 +0000 artappraiser comment 236496 at http://dagblog.com