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Oct 31 - "Investigating

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 09 May 2017 06:57:00 +0000

In reply to Yeah, Mensch. We've discussed

Oct 31 - "Investigating Donald Trump, F.B.I. Sees No Clear Link to Russia - The New York Times" - hey, nice timing for that headline, guys. Are you working for Team Trump, or just useful idiots?

I haven't seen anything so definitively wrong out of Mensch - often she's overtly just speculating, other times she claims sources. Where has she been nearly as wrong as the Times here, or as malicious as when the Times just ran an article quoting the Clinton Cash smear job as "well researched".

What has the Times discovered ahead of time that we didn't already know, wasn't in the Reuters/AP feed/press conference/speech and wasn't false?

And besides, she introduced me to Rogue Melania/@RogueFirstLady - not very PC, but rather worth the price of admission by itself.

I'm afraid we will be again,

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 08 May 2017 20:53:00 +0000

In reply to Yeah, Mensch. We've discussed

I'm afraid we will be again, like it or not. If the NY Times had done a bang-up job on Gulf War 2 & the 2008 crash and the 2016 elections, we might not be at this impasse, but what with Facebook and other alt news, we were likely to get here anyway. At the moment I just wait for one of her contentious statements to get repeated by Bloomberg or CNN or AP or even Huffpost, and then everyone's okay with it.

At some point we're going to have to wrestle with "unhinged but even at baseball .300 levels of success is more interesting and helpful than a mundane 80% accuracy of stuff we already knew that obscures stuff we really need to know". And considering the amount mainstream media pimped Trump and gave him 24x7 exposure at the expense of other candidates and reason, that 80% rating is probably way over-generous.

Few are doing investigative journalism of any sort, most of it's navel-gazing "analysis" in reaction to reading the same AP & Reuters newsfeeds or repeating what's said at a news conference without even contesting what the person said. No wonder we got so far down the Russian rabbit hole without any heads up - no one gave permission to publish anything as "real news", so it all stayed too speculative and out of the Kardashian-focused radar.

Look at Brexit as a decent example of what got ignored.

Yeah, Mensch. We've discussed

Michael Wolraich — Mon, 08 May 2017 20:27:57 +0000

In reply to Worth (re)reading Louise

Yeah, Mensch. We've discussed her before.

Mild in comparison to the

artappraiser — Mon, 08 May 2017 19:05:10 +0000

In reply to Carter Page's Unhinged Letter to Congress

Mild in comparison to the Tweeter-in-Chief practicing witness intimidation this morning?

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/cnn-panel-trump-tweets-sally-yates-beyond-the-pale

Worth (re)reading Louise

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 08 May 2017 18:18:35 +0000

In reply to Carter Page's Unhinged Letter to Congress

Worth (re)reading Louise Mensch on Carter Page from a month ago. If there are tapes of him, or that he was picked up on normal NSA foreign agent dragnetting even before the FISA request, it's hard to see what Page's outburst will gain him, unless he thinks the GOP will sequester confidential recordings if he screams "unfair, unfair" enough times?