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artappraiser — Fri, 26 May 2017 01:13:11 +0000

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P.S. For those who don't know, when the articles refer to "the Conservatives", it is not generic conservative voters they are referring to. but an actual political party. in New York state we have a party named the Conservative Party, it gets third place on the ballots for a quite a few years now as its candidates when they run them have been bringing in the most votes after GOP and Dems.

Wikipedia entry on the Conservative party explains:

The Conservative Party of New York State is a political party in the United States founded in 1962 and active in the State of New York. Since 2010, the Party has held "Row C" on New York ballots—the third-place ballot position, directly below the Democratic and Republican Parties—because it received the third-highest number of votes of any political party in the most recent statewide election.[1]

As of April 1, 2016, 159,355 voters were registered with the Conservative Party.[2] The Conservative Party is the fifth-largest political party in New York, ranking behind the Democratic Party, the Republican Party, the CPUSA and the Independence Party and ahead of the Working Families Party and the Green Party.[3]

read on there if you want to know more.

(By the way, doesn't apply much in this case, but in NY state we don't have open primaries, you must be registered as a party member in order to vote in primaries, people who don't register a party preference cannot vote primary elections.)

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artappraiser — Fri, 26 May 2017 00:57:42 +0000

In reply to Progressive union-backed candidate pulls off upset victory in Republican district

Here is the later piece by the same reporter giving election analysis comments from related. I excerpt all those pertinent parts, Do I need to say that the stories about what happened and who should get the credit/blame differ?! (I've been able to get access like a subscriber because Newsday is reciprocal with my cable TV co..) My underlining:

Anti-Donald Trump effect in Assembly special election?

Updated May 24, 2017 8:07 PM
By David M. Schwartz @ Newsday.com

Progressive groups and some political party leaders said Tuesday’s upset victory by Democrat Christine Pellegrino in a district that voted heavily for President Donald Trump may signal further Democratic gains in November’s general elections.

But while some said anti-Trump sentiment boosted Pellegrino, Conservatives, Republicans and some of Pellegrino’s union backers pointed to local factors that influenced the election.

They cited Republican corruption scandals in Oyster Bay that may have driven down turnout in GOP strongholds such as Massapequa, and infighting among Suffolk Conservatives and Republicans

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Turnout was just below 10 percent, not including absentee ballots that have yet to be counted.

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“Progressive energy is not just showing up to protest in this moment. We now have a pretty important data point that progressives are showing up at the polls as well,” said Daniel Altschuler, director of Make the Road Action, the political arm of the Long Island-based immigrant rights group.

New York State Conservative chairman Mike Long said Pellegrino’s victory should serve as a wake-up call for Conservatives and Republicans.

Progressives “are energized. They’re energized because they lost the election and haven’t gotten over the fact,” that Hillary Clinton or Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) lost the presidential election. “Our people have to understand they can’t be complacent.”

Rep. Peter King (R-Seaford) whose congressional district includes the 9th Assembly District, said: “I think it should be a wake-up call for Republicans and Conservatives this November in Nassau and Suffolk. Democrats do have an energized base.”

King also blamed “a breakdown” between Conservatives, Republicans and the Independence Party, which all backed Gargiulo. “The parties are not united,” he said.

On Wednesday, the results were a rallying point in progressive circles, largely because Trump got 60 percent of the vote in 9th Assembly District in November to Clinton’s 37 percent.

Andy Pallotta, president of New York State United Teachers, which backed Pellegrino, said the union played a major role in Pellegrino’s victory.

While part of the underlying cause could be anti-Trump sentiment, “it was not the dominant piece,” Pallotta said.

“This is good old fashioned unionism, getting out there and speaking to people,” Pallotta said.

Union volunteers made 40,000 calls in the district and did extensive outreach to the 5,800 NYSUT members who live in the 9th District. NYSUT also funneled $200,000 to an independent expenditure committee that backed Pellegrino over Gargiulo, a retired special education teacher and high school basketball coach.

Suffolk GOP chairman John Jay LaValle said Gargiulo’s loss had nothing to do with Trump.

Instead, LaValle blamed ties between Conservatives and Democrats. Suffolk Conservatives had pushed Gargiulo, vice chairman of the Babylon Conservative Party. Gargiulo works for Babylon Town Supervisor Richard Schaffer, who also is the Suffolk Democratic Chairman.

“Tom Gargiulo was not campaigning with Donald Trump. He was campaigning with Babylon Democrats. The Republican-Conservative base rejected that,” LaValle said.

Schaffer said he stayed neutral in the race because of a past contribution from NYSUT meant for a Democratic State Senate candidate that Schaffer said is under investigation.

Schaffer denied he supported Gargiulo. He said Pellegrino was helped by anti-Trump anger that generated new energy in the Democratic Party, and issues in Nassau County that hurt Republicans.

Joseph Mondello, Nassau Republican Chairman, declined to comment. Frank Tinari, Suffolk County Conservative Chairman, did not return a call for comment Wednesday.

Pellegrino will take the seat that former GOP Assemb. Joseph Saladino vacated to become Oyster Bay supervisor.

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