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Peracles... Thanks... ~OGD~

oldenGoldenDecoy — Sun, 28 May 2017 03:03:55 +0000

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Peracles... Thanks...

~OGD~

Excellent find. I've been

Obey — Sat, 27 May 2017 12:20:26 +0000

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Excellent find. I've been wondering what it post pomo theory would look like.

Great link to the Avril

Obey — Sat, 27 May 2017 12:10:26 +0000

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Great link to the Avril Lavigne revelation. Totally explains the incredible fall in artistic quality between Let Go and Under my Skin!! And why she slowly stopped dressing like a skater kid when she grew up.

Sorry, swear I didn't. Nice

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 27 May 2017 11:00:16 +0000

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Sorry, swear I didn't. Nice coinkydink though. I took the liberty of adding the embedded tweet gif to you first item - delete if you don't like.

You pegged it! I haven't

artappraiser — Sat, 27 May 2017 10:45:19 +0000

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You pegged it! I haven't heard the term itself, but the wikipedia entry pegs what I've been seeing and hearing from young people. Especially under the heading "Vermeulen and van den Akker". Kind of a amazing actually.

Peracles... Seth?

oldenGoldenDecoy — Sat, 27 May 2017 10:27:23 +0000

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Peracles... Seth?

Have you happened to have been peeking in the "saved" yet unpublished Reader Blogs here at DagBlog?

Note the date that I first saved the following. One week ago on 05/20/2017

Trump Russia Affair In The Wayback Machine To March 2017

I just now posted that to "public."

~OGD~

Nice summary, but you miss

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 27 May 2017 08:22:00 +0000

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Nice summary, but you miss the bigger picture of what comes next and how it's evolving beyond the paternalistic older wiser brother shepherding the plebes through the briars.

There are more ad hoc communities of serious journalist bloggers or lone wolves, augmenting thoughl not necessarily replacing mainstream news, but helping to address some of the inefficiencies and blatant errors that we've had. This is not guaranteed, as on the internet no one knows you're a dog, so you work with various other referential models - who brought in who, do we trust them because of that? - and informational models - how much does their data check out along with tips we get from style & format & behavior.

Everyone's had good fun with Louise Mensch,who some suspect as a conservative mole to discredit citizen blogging and thus serious alt news rather than the often ineffectual mainstream news that Russia, Trump et al have had an easy time running circles around.

Not that I want to present this as the only alt news option/format/approach available (that's be a shame), but would you accept an alt news that looked more sane, linear, referential such as this?

(MEGA-THREAD) The plot to sell America's foreign policy for foreign oil _and_ steal an election in the bargain began at the Mayflower Hotel. pic.twitter.com/XkoFpmMAeJ
— Seth Abramson (@SethAbramson) March 24, 2017

https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/845089192438829056

(THREAD) There's ample reason to believe Trump secretly met with Russian spy Sergey Kislyak in Trump Tower in December. Here's what we know. pic.twitter.com/7UkNe7ZQ1i
— Seth Abramson (@SethAbramson) May 26, 2017

https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/868253432779505664

Or discussing the unnoticed side of an important legal-political option in the news say like this:

(THREAD) The most important word in America's political lexicon tonight is DECONFLICTION. But our media is MISLEADING US on how it applies. pic.twitter.com/qLb84JP336
— Seth Abramson (@SethAbramson) May 26, 2017

https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/867919206817423360

The new "post-modern" is

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 27 May 2017 06:09:00 +0000

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The new "post-modern" is "meta modern", post experimental political fan-fiction? Or that's just an offshoot?

P.S. I should add to be clear

artappraiser — Sat, 27 May 2017 00:00:19 +0000

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P.S. I should add to be clear: I despise most serious conspiracy theorizing with my whole heart and soul, the JFK's, the 9/11's, the Mossad fanatics, the Trilateral Commission and Iluminati club, and the absolute worst: the Richard Simmons is being held captive by his housekeeper people! The smarter they are the more they drive me nuts. If a friend admits to sympathy towards any one of them, they immediately lose a lot of respect in my eyes and it's real hard for me to think of them in the same way again.

ANOTHER P.S.: so interesting on the Capgras thing, thanks for sharing. BECAUSE: there is a publicly contagious example going on right now! See @ The Guardian: Why fans think Avril Lavigne died and was replaced by a clone named Melissa

Mensch just doesn't strike me that way. Does she show signs of paranoia and a tendency to make silly connections? Yes, but it's not organized. She's like the nut case at TPM Cafe who would repost anything bad she could find on the Bush family from Lexis Nexis, as if someone would come and edit it all for her and make a story. This would be interspersed with angry stories about family committing her against her will, so that was her conveniently warning everyone: mebbe you shouldn't totally trust the condition of my synapses.

Re: If you dagbloggers want

artappraiser — Fri, 26 May 2017 23:44:45 +0000

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Re: If you dagbloggers want to hop on that bandwagon to crazy town, could you please do it by adding a separate fake-news side-bar, to spare the few remaining alethic luddites around here. Let me just throw that in the reader suggestion box.

I'd sign on that suggestion! I'll admit I'm here to group analyze, it's so much better if you can interact on news with others, than trying to grope alone. So one could say I definitely buy into a bit of the hive thing. BUT what I dislike more the crazy conspirators is this: I am most certainly not interested in working with anyone that has a strong political agenda in what they push. I'm not interested in political activism, never have been and for the most part feel my politics are my personal business. In most cases, it just boils down to this: why would anyone care what I (especially being Miz Anonymous on the internet) thinks should be done about it, and why should I care what anyone else thinks should be done about it?. It's far more useful for me to read a poll on any topic than a single internet poster's opinion. I'd like to borrow your mind to analyze but I don't give a flying f what you think should result from that analysis, I'll decide that for myself and you should decide that for yourself now that we've figured out the situation together. Unpaid political punditry is surely no better than and usually worse than, the paid stuff.

So maybe I am not as vehemently against the Mensch type thing as you are. It's just a case where you can see whether there's someone who's work is worth your time or not. With her I happen to judge mostly not, lots of wasted time for little result. And fanatic followers are a danger sign. Even the best journalists have faults and bias. Unless, as I implied elsewhere, you're not taking your fandom seriously, it's just that you find it fun to follow the writer, in an infotainment sort of way.