dagblog - Comments for "Trump administration deeply divided over Paris climate deal" http://dagblog.com/link/trump-administration-deeply-divided-over-paris-climate-deal-22653 Comments for "Trump administration deeply divided over Paris climate deal" en The Pope: http://dagblog.com/comment/238686#comment-238686 <a id="comment-238686"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/238564#comment-238564">The Hill&#039;s pieces on topic</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>The Pope:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Through the darkness of today's conflicts, every one of us can become a bright candle, a reminder that light will overcome darkness.</p> — Pope Francis (@Pontifex) <a href="https://twitter.com/Pontifex/status/870603406267871233">June 2, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Sat, 03 Jun 2017 08:41:25 +0000 artappraiser comment 238686 at http://dagblog.com George Bush's climate http://dagblog.com/comment/238644#comment-238644 <a id="comment-238644"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/238613#comment-238613">WaPo has the count at 30</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>George Bush's climate negotiator, in the above, basically says much ado about an idiot administration no one should pay attention to, my underlining</p> <blockquote> <p>Many energy experts say that progress will continue on greenhouse gas emissions even if the United States drops out of the Paris agreement.</p> <p><u>“The net impact to our emissions performance is likely zero to negligible,” said Andy Karsner, former principal climate negotiator for President George W. Bush. “I don’t actually believe for a moment that a withdrawal from Paris is tantamount to abating our efforts, direction or momentum toward increased penetration of clean-energy technologies. Washington does not have the power to put the genie back in the bottle.”</u></p> <p>Karsner, now managing partner at the Emerson Collective, compared renewable energy progress to the Pony Express. “When the Pony Express changed to air mail, then the Pony Express was done. Obsolete,” he said. “When the Pony Express gives way to email, then the Pony Express is a distant memory, a romantic relic. That’s what is happening in the world of energy technology. That has been our national aspiration for decades. We have invested in this outcome for our well-being. <u>And we’re winning. We’re ahead in the score. And we have a president who wants to quit the game.”</u></p> <p>Trump’s announcement coincides with signs that climate concerns are growing stronger in the financial community. A resolution instructing corporate managements to do the climate equivalent of a stress test — describing in detail the effects of government policies designed to limit global warming increase to 2 degrees Centigrade — has been adopted at Occidental Petroleum, the utility PPL and ExxonMobil over the protests of management. Major financial advisory firms Vanguard, BlackRock and State Street bucked tradition and backed the resolutions.</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Fri, 02 Jun 2017 17:00:01 +0000 artappraiser comment 238644 at http://dagblog.com WaPo has the count at 30 http://dagblog.com/comment/238613#comment-238613 <a id="comment-238613"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/238599#comment-238599">California basically seceding</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/06/01/these-titans-of-industry-just-broke-with-trumps-decision-to-exit-the-paris-accords/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_climatebiz-6pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&amp;utm_term=.c4aba6fb01c4">WaPo has the count at 30 states:</a></p> <p><em>Thirty states and scores of companies said Thursday that they would press ahead with their climate policies and pursue lower greenhouse gas emissions, breaking sharply with President Trump’s decision to exit the historic Paris climate accord.....</em></p> </div></div></div> Fri, 02 Jun 2017 05:59:02 +0000 artappraiser comment 238613 at http://dagblog.com Pittsburgh & Ah-nold & M.I.T. http://dagblog.com/comment/238610#comment-238610 <a id="comment-238610"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/238599#comment-238599">California basically seceding</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Pittsburgh &amp; Ah-nold &amp; M.I.T.</p> <p><a href="http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/335994-pittsburgh-mayor-fires-back-at-trump-my-city-will-follow-paris" title="Pittsburgh mayor fires back at Trump: My city will follow Paris agreement">Pittsburgh mayor fires back at Trump: My city will follow Paris agreement</a></p> <p><a href="http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/336035-schwarzenegger-slams-trump-on-paris-deal-exit">Schwarzenegger slams Trump on Paris deal exit</a></p> <p><a href="http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/336036-mit-officials-trump-misunderstood-our-climate-research">MIT officials: Trump misunderstood our climate research</a></p> <p>all @ TheHill.com</p> <p>PLUS Mike Bloomberg coordinating <em> 30 mayors, three governors, more than 80 university presidents and more than 100 businesses</em></p> <p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/01/climate/american-cities-climate-standards.html">Cities, States and Companies Committed to the Accord</a></p> <p>By HIROKO TABUCHI and HENRY FOUNTAIN 8:17 PM ET @ NYTimes.com</p> <p><em>A group of American officials, intellectuals and businesses is negotiating with the U.N. to accept its emissions plan.</em></p> </div></div></div> Fri, 02 Jun 2017 05:02:03 +0000 artappraiser comment 238610 at http://dagblog.com From Axios.com: Headlines http://dagblog.com/comment/238604#comment-238604 <a id="comment-238604"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/trump-administration-deeply-divided-over-paris-climate-deal-22653">Trump administration deeply divided over Paris climate deal</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><a href="http://Headlines from around the world in reaction to President Trump's decision to withdraw the U.S. from the Paris deal: Earth to Trump: F*** You, Berliner Kurier, Germany Europeans defy Trump and reject Paris renegotiation, Süddeutsche Zeitung, Germany Trump passed on the best deal the planet has ever seen, The Guardian, U.K. Donald Trump, the grave-digger of America's credibility, Le Temps, Switzerland China and EU to tackle climate change together amid U.S. retreat, en.people.cn, China Israeli greens slam Trump's decision to withdraw from Paris Agreement, Jerusalem Post, Israel">From Axios.com</a>: Headlines from around the world in reaction to President Trump's decision to withdraw the U.S. from the Paris deal:</p> <ul><li><em>Earth to Trump: F*** You, </em><a href="https://twitter.com/brentgofftv/status/870364038093574144" target="_blank">Berliner Kurier</a>, Germany</li> <li><em>Europeans </em><em>defy Trump</em><em> and reject Paris renegotiation, </em><a href="http://www.sueddeutsche.de/news/wissen/klima-europaeer-bieten-trump-die-stirn-und-lehnen-paris-neuverhandlung-ab-dpa.urn-newsml-dpa-com-20090101-170601-99-691287" target="_blank">Süddeutsche Zeitung</a>, Germany</li> <li><em>Trump passed on the best deal the planet has ever seen, </em><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/01/trump-paris-climate-deal-planet?CMP=twt_gu" target="_blank">The Guardian</a>, U.K.</li> <li><em>Donald Trump, the grave-digger of America's credibility,</em> <a href="https://www.letemps.ch/opinions/2017/06/01/donald-trump-fossoyeur-credibilite-lamerique" target="_blank">Le Temps</a>, Switzerland</li> <li><em>China and EU to tackle climate change together amid U.S. retreat, </em><a href="http://en.people.cn/n3/2017/0601/c90000-9222999.html" target="_blank">en.people.cn</a>, China</li> <li><em>Israeli greens slam Trump's decision to withdraw from Paris Agreement,</em> <a href="http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Israeli-greens-slam-Trumps-decision-to-withdraw-from-Paris-Agreement-494581" target="_blank">Jerusalem Post</a>, Israel</li> </ul></div></div></div> Fri, 02 Jun 2017 03:07:14 +0000 artappraiser comment 238604 at http://dagblog.com California basically seceding http://dagblog.com/comment/238599#comment-238599 <a id="comment-238599"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/trump-administration-deeply-divided-over-paris-climate-deal-22653">Trump administration deeply divided over Paris climate deal</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>California basically seceding from Trump foreign policy? Why ask why? Just do it! (insert your favorite hipster advertisement here) GOP is pro state's rights after all...okay, can do:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/01/jerry-brown-trump-climate-deal-california-china-239035">Jerry Brown defies Trump on world stage</a></p> <p>The California governor will fly to China to rally support for his climate change policies.</p> <p>By DAVID SIDERS @ Politico.com 06/01/2017 06:06 PM EDT</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Thu, 01 Jun 2017 23:42:25 +0000 artappraiser comment 238599 at http://dagblog.com  unstable drunk uncle: http://dagblog.com/comment/238597#comment-238597 <a id="comment-238597"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/238596#comment-238596">The Paris pact collaboration</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><em> unstable drunk uncle:</em></p> <p>Xactly along the lines of what I was thinking. Give everyone a few minutes to be upset with his decision, after that they will realize: <em>good riddance to bad rubbish, maybe we'll let you come back when you have someone sane in charge</em></p> </div></div></div> Thu, 01 Jun 2017 22:40:56 +0000 artappraiser comment 238597 at http://dagblog.com The Paris pact collaboration http://dagblog.com/comment/238596#comment-238596 <a id="comment-238596"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/238594#comment-238594">Best op-ed so far on the</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>The Paris pact collaboration will be stronger without the US much like the EU will be stronger without the UK. That is, these were the countries holding back the rest from making a more forceful agreement. But it's a strange new world with the US withdrawing its leadership from Paris and from Nato in two short weeks. Trump has singlehanded'y reshaped global politics. I wonder what his friend Kissinger thinks about it all. He hasn't given the US a new role on the global stage other than that of unstable drunk uncle: sure, uncle Sam may sober up temporarily next presidential term but his word can pretty much never be trusted again. </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Thu, 01 Jun 2017 22:38:54 +0000 Obey comment 238596 at http://dagblog.com Best op-ed so far on the http://dagblog.com/comment/238594#comment-238594 <a id="comment-238594"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/trump-administration-deeply-divided-over-paris-climate-deal-22653">Trump administration deeply divided over Paris climate deal</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Best op-ed so far on the decision, because it's basically knowledgeable analysis over opinion and emotion:</p> <p><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-just-betrayed-the-world-now-the-world-will-fight-back/2017/06/01/3c0b8026-46e7-11e7-a196-a1bb629f64cb_story.html">Trump just betrayed the world. Now the world will fight back.</a></p> <p>By Todd Stern @ WaPo, June 1 at 3:47 PM</p> <p><em>Todd Stern, a visiting lecturer at Yale Law School, was U.S. special envoy for climate change from 2009 to 2016.</em></p> </div></div></div> Thu, 01 Jun 2017 21:54:07 +0000 artappraiser comment 238594 at http://dagblog.com The Hill's pieces on topic http://dagblog.com/comment/238564#comment-238564 <a id="comment-238564"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/trump-administration-deeply-divided-over-paris-climate-deal-22653">Trump administration deeply divided over Paris climate deal</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><a href="http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/335838-climate-change-drama-grips-the-white-house">The Hill's pieces on topic reminds,</a> this was actually amusing the way the Pope did this, this was his gift to Trump, with a stern face, none of the usual smiles, and certainly no gilded thingamabob souvenir that The Donald could show off to his friends:</p> <blockquote> <p>That came after Pope Francis used an audience with Trump to make a push for climate action, gifting him with a copy of his 2015 encyclical on climate change and the environment.</p> </blockquote> <p> They also round up the for and against</p> <blockquote> <p>Trump’s longtime allies, including Bannon, Vice President Pence, Attorney General <a href="http://thehill.com/people/jeff-sessions">Jeff Sessions</a>, EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt, senior counselor Kellyanne Conway, policy adviser Andrew Bremberg and legislative adviser Rick Dearborn support withdrawing from the agreement, according to those close to the negotiations. <br /><br /> Those who want to see the U.S. stay in the accord or renegotiate it include Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, senior adviser Jared Kushner, Energy Secretary Rick Perry, economic adviser Gary Cohn and national security adviser H.R. McMaster.<br /><br /> The debate has in some cases split junior staff from their bosses, those close to the negotiations say.</p> </blockquote> <p>and talk about the related leak wars.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 01 Jun 2017 01:27:13 +0000 artappraiser comment 238564 at http://dagblog.com