dagblog - Comments for "Solar’s rise lifted blue-collar workers in N.C. Now they’re worried about Trump."

Trumpers believe Trump.

NCD — Wed, 07 Jun 2017 20:48:25 +0000

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Trumpers believe Trump.

Trump says the Labor Department puts out phony numbers.

And of course, Trump has yet to nominate a Commissioner, Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Any figures put out are part of the vast Obama/Clintonite/Warmer/Chinese world conspiracy that Donald and his minions see through.

Your posts are always some

ocean-kat — Wed, 07 Jun 2017 20:38:16 +0000

In reply to I suppose if you know little

Your posts are always some version of, Are you gonna believe me or your lying eyes? I'm going to believe the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics instead of you. And numerous other sites that come up with similar numbers.

Uniquely connected to a

NCD — Wed, 07 Jun 2017 18:36:40 +0000

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Uniquely connected to a reality of Red/Borg Queens, Clintonites, climate Warmers and on record as afraid liberals would follow him to the ends of the earth (Antarctica) to irritate him with their smug palliatve care and suffocating elitism?

I wonder sometimes if Peter

artappraiser — Wed, 07 Jun 2017 18:13:35 +0000

In reply to Peter time for your GOP

I wonder sometimes if Peter is someone who wants anything to do with the GOP, he reminds me of an unregistered Peter who posted here years ago, very much a lefty, The current Peter sounds like a big Trump fan under the impression that he Trump is a savior of the good ole strong union labor days, where he imagines Trump is and anti-global trade and protectionist, where it's only the workers of the world that should unite.

Peter time for your GOP

NCD — Wed, 07 Jun 2017 17:51:55 +0000

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Peter time for your GOP Trumpkin reprogramming : Trump says solar panels on The Wall are a fantastic way to pay for The Wall. Solar is a goldmine, or maybe a coal mine.

“The president is committed to building the wall and securing the border and I commend him for it. He’s continuing to fight and following through on that promise. One idea he is looking at is a wall that would actually function as a solar panel to ultimately pay for itself,” House Majority Whip Steve Scalise (R-La.) told The Hill after meeting with Trump at the White House.

The buck doesn't even slow down on Trump's desk.

you're wrong, you're not not

artappraiser — Wed, 07 Jun 2017 14:48:46 +0000

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you're wrong, you're not not reading my quoted article correctly, read it again. He's not an electrician, he's making $20 an hour for unskilled "technician" work, and living costs are so low around there--he's renting a 4-bedroom house on his pay-- that he's pretty sure that will enable him to pay to study for an electrician license, he implies doing that he can move up to the solar jobs that earn a lot more.

He is earning enough to rent a four-bedroom house for his wife and three children, and is hoping to save up enough to pursue his electrician’s license. That will open up a more lucrative path in the solar field, he said.

He does also mention that they get a lot of overtime work in summer...where the savings part probably comes in

I am not going to look it up because I am not interested in dead end disappearing work, but i doubt someone doing bottom of the ladder work in coal mining makes a lot more. The point: unskilled labor of this type is disappearing, you need training, education of some type, to make more money.. Even in coal: automation.

Major takeaway: he's excited about continuing to work in solar, even once he gets an electrician license, he would stay in that field, he sees a future there.

I suppose if you know little

Peter — Wed, 07 Jun 2017 14:01:02 +0000

In reply to A dialog with you is an

I suppose if you know little or nothing about the construction industry and are easily led by bait and switch statistics you might believe these numbers. Art's real example of the electrican earning $20/hr while a crew of 20 did the low skil, low payl instillation work is the reality of this industry.

It appears that the definition of 'installer' includes most everyone involved in the project so the average wage is skewed to reflect a well paying career that doesn't exist but is used to promote the industry to the gullible public. Even the government report mentioned that some areas require electricians to do the installation which with a little cherry-picking can help to increase that average wage in their calculations. The bait and switch was more obvious in the Bloomberg promotion where they admitted that most of the jobs were installer positions but then used an industry average wage to promote their investments.

Only need panels on the

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 07 Jun 2017 06:00:00 +0000

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Only need panels on the northern side where it's bright and sunny, whereas the southern side is cloudy and gloomy. Can put sombreros on the top and sell fruity drinks. #GotMyRoseColoredGlassesOn

PS - wonder if Ross Perot ever considered that Great Sucking Sound is just because we suck?

Here you go, lol:

artappraiser — Wed, 07 Jun 2017 05:20:08 +0000

In reply to Solar’s rise lifted blue-collar workers in N.C. Now they’re worried about Trump.

Here you go, lol:

Donald Trump Reportedly Suggested Covering Border Wall With Solar Panels

HuffPost - ‎6 hours ago‎

Trump said his vision was a wall 40 feet to 50 feet high and covered with solar panels so they'd be “beautiful structures,” the people said [....]

That's a hot tip for fans looking for some mighty fine construction jobs, get down to the border however you can, heard tell Mexico is paying!

A dialog with you is an

ocean-kat — Tue, 06 Jun 2017 19:37:55 +0000

In reply to The vast majority of jobs in

A dialog with you is an exercise in google searching to debunk the unsourced bullshit you spout. It's such a waste of time I try to avoid doing it. One look at your claims caused me to doubt. Personal reports from friends left me convinced you were wrong. So, as usual, I did a search to check your claims.

According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, solar PV installers earned an average wage of $19.53 per hour, which equates to an average annual income of $40,620 as of May 2012. Half of all PV installers reported wages ranging from $14.98 to $22.89 per hour and salaries of between $31,150 and $47,620 per year. The highest-paid 10 percent of PV installers reportedly earned $57,980 or more per year.