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The Book of Jeremy Corbyn

artappraiser — Mon, 12 Jun 2017 20:51:59 +0000

In reply to Somebody saw profit in making

By Anthony Lane @ NewYorker.com, June 9

And they hearkened unto the word of Jeremy, and believed. For they said unto themselves, Lo, he bringeth unto us the desire of our hearts.

Mostly for fun, but also some thought-provokers related to discussions on this thread.

the non-dogmatic, not overly

Obey — Sat, 10 Jun 2017 11:39:11 +0000

In reply to That real life doesn't always

the non-dogmatic, not overly charismatic, sometimes lethargic Corbyn

Something tells me his lack of charisma was his superpower here. Like with Hollande, whose whole pitch was "hey, how about a boring president for once?". Even his love affairs were eye-rollingly tedious.

Yep, our flavor analytics

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 10 Jun 2017 10:25:51 +0000

In reply to So YOU are the eminence grise

Yep, our flavor analytics show easy on the sauce and more tangy toppings for an urban chic, more demanding clientele. And careful with those drone langings - decapitation takes the fun out of home delivery.

That real life doesn't always

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 10 Jun 2017 10:22:00 +0000

In reply to Just out of interest, what

That real life doesn't always give us Braveheart or Teddy Roosevelt charging up the hill, that sometimes we have to get inspired by the more normal leader with the most level head and grip on reality without any excessive promises of wonderful tomorrows. Corbyn wins by not being insane or excessively vain.

Next time you need a leader to move you and entertain you, check out one of those wonderful documentaries or full-feature films on Netflix. Once you've got your adrenalin fix out of the way, then have a look at what the candidates say and do, and figure out which have a chance in hell of bringing something good along the way.

From my eyes, Corbyn lost to the Braveheart crowd last June, and after the reality of Brexit and watching its faux William Wallace promises torn apart by horses afterwards, the acceptance of the non-dogmatic, not overly charismatic, sometimes lethargic Corbyn was greatly preferred to the buffoon Boris Johnson or that scheming weasel Nigel Farage or the posing pseudo-majestic Theresa May.

Just out of interest, what

Obey — Sat, 10 Jun 2017 10:00:16 +0000

In reply to Good for Corby. But to

Just out of interest, what would be the lessons you would consider useful for the US if Corbyn had gotten 2227 more votes and become Prime Minister?

On Corbyn and the vindication

Obey — Sat, 10 Jun 2017 09:53:02 +0000

In reply to UK Election results live: Tories largest party in hung parliament says shock exit poll

On Corbyn and the vindication of authenticity.

A parallel with WWC voters in

Obey — Sat, 10 Jun 2017 09:43:30 +0000

In reply to UK Election results live: Tories largest party in hung parliament says shock exit poll

A parallel with WWC voters in the US, from Jonathan Freedland:

A second tenet of conventional wisdom, apparently borne out by the polls at the start of the campaign, is that Ukip voters are essentially Tories, and that once Ukip ceased to be a viable option, most would vote Conservative. But Thursday’s results suggest plenty of Ukip voters backed Labour. Nigel Farage went on TV to say that he, for one, was not surprised. He’d always known that Kippers were often old Labour types drawn, for example, to rail renationalisation.

But there’s another possibility: that voting Ukip was never chiefly about Europe. It was, in part, a protest against the system, one that had let those voters down. With Ukip gone, Corbyn – framed by his critics as a dangerous rebel – looked like an ideal new vehicle for that same anti-establishment impulse.

UKIP voters, a good chunk of them, were leftwing protest voters. Do with that info what you will.

The EU will be stronger

Obey — Sat, 10 Jun 2017 09:22:27 +0000

In reply to Yes, I only care about

The EU will be stronger without the UK, and will be able to move forward on great integration. The UK's involvement and investment in Europe was mainly to sabotage efforts at stronger institutions and better collaboration. I wish they could be a constructive member, and a willing partner, but that isn't something they have ever had any inclination towards, nor is it something a quick referendum do-over can fix.

I say that although it makes me really sad to see the UK out. It has been my second home for the past twenty years, and it suddenly feels like a very foreign land on so many levels. It really needs to figure out its own way, but these bandaid solutions, where we just try to cover up tectonic shifts in national psychology and move on regardless, they won't work.

So YOU are the eminence grise

Obey — Sat, 10 Jun 2017 09:10:32 +0000

In reply to Not quite "official",

So YOU are the eminence grise behind Big Pizza!! Explains everything.

Not quite "official",

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 10 Jun 2017 08:50:21 +0000

In reply to The UK police community

Not quite "official", considering its .co.uk address - "Official Twitter Account For The UK's Largest Network of Policing Forums. " - yeah, like I have the official drone logistics Twitter account for the pizza industry. It's 1 guy with 1 opinion, even though he may have some real insight into the pulse of the Policing business overall.