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Let's just say that trump is

CVille Dem — Fri, 16 Jun 2017 22:40:25 +0000

Let's just say that trump is aware that there is evidence of his financial ties and debts to Russia. Let's just say that he knows that this (and more) information about trump's money-laundering for Russia are also bound to come out.

Never mind all of his 'satellites' also go down (including his son-in-law). He doesn't care about any of that. And he doesn't care about collusion either. That can always be covered up if everyone stays loyal to him -- ?

The fact is, he knows if the facts come out, he will go down, and he will lose everything. So what do you think he will do? I think he will go for broke.

White House leakers to

artappraiser — Wed, 14 Jun 2017 05:09:07 +0000

In reply to CAN TRUMP REALLY FIRE MUELLER?

White House leakers to NYTimes are claiming credit for stopping him from doing so:

Trump Stews. Staff Steps In. Mueller Is Safe for Now.

By GLENN THRUSH, MAGGIE HABERMAN and JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS 11:05 PM ET

Criticisms of Robert S. Mueller III led the president to question his impartiality, but the White House said he wouldn’t be fired

Ryan can already imagine his

NCD — Tue, 13 Jun 2017 23:55:38 +0000

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Ryan can already imagine his own wine cellar full of Jayer-Gilles 2004 Echezeaux Grand Cru.

Pardon me, have I impugned the infamous Republicans honor?

Senator, are you impugning

NCD — Tue, 13 Jun 2017 23:44:43 +0000

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Senator, are you impugning the unimpeachable honor of Speaker Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnel?

Hey C'Ville, I was just going

artappraiser — Tue, 13 Jun 2017 22:52:26 +0000

In reply to I thought Ryan's statement

Hey C'Ville, I was just going to add the Ryan comments to my reply to NCD, and I find you're already on it. There are defiintiely factions in the GOP as bad as the Dems, if people aren't seeing how Trump has caused that, I think they are missing the real big picture of the mess.

With Ryan, we also should all keep in mind that he's high up on the Presidential replacement list!! So what he says is as important to parse as any other of the major players. Certainly the Gingrich club is not in the center of things. They have their own agenda(s) and one should be wary of what those might be (if you can figure em out).

Anyhew, as long as I went to find it, here's Ryan:

Ryan: Trump should 'let Robert Mueller do his job'

WITH VIDEO with caption The notion that President Donald Trump might dismiss Robert Mueller earned a frosty reception from Paul Ryan. @ Politico · 7 hours ago

And if anyone's thinking: is she thinking Ryan is cynically thinking: gee, ya know, I wouldn't mind becoming president if this gets worse, not to mention with a reputation as respectful of rule of law and boy scouts like Mueller....well, yes I am thinking that....

I thought Ryan's statement

CVille Dem — Tue, 13 Jun 2017 22:19:45 +0000

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I thought Ryan's statement this morning was interesting (in that I wasn't expecting it). He said he respects Mueller as a competent and fair professional. He is confident that trump and all associates will be vindicated by his investigation. I really liked it because it makes Newt G look like the scumbag that he is. Also, the trump propaganda team is shouting that 3 of Mueller's hires donated to Hillary. So they want him to fire them and hire people who voted for trump. Well, THAT would make sense.

The fact that Mueller has many GOP creeds should reassure any sane person that he will insist on facts, and a non-partisan investigation. But I guess that is actually the problem...facts...the GOP just HATES them!

Fairness? It's for suckers!

I would argue that it's only

artappraiser — Tue, 13 Jun 2017 21:39:03 +0000

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Don't disagree that your first sentence could be correct. But I would argue on the second, that it's only one specific wing of the GOP that are doing the Mueller is a partisan thing. After reading all those news articles on it last night, seemed very much to me a trial balloon being thrown out there by the old Gingrich insurgent gang, a lot of people not in office, so totally free to agitate.

And it wasn't entirely clear to me that the White House was part of that sub plot-- maybe something more like this: Trump is doing rambling thoughts with friend on a personal phone call where he feels free to brainstorm, says something like "so frustrating, sometimes I think I should just go whole hog massacre" and the friend calls the gang and they get together to offer the possibility up for him, to find out what might be the worst case result. I.E., to see if most GOP would support or not.

but the will of public

artappraiser — Tue, 13 Jun 2017 21:28:34 +0000

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but the will of public officials to make that system work...

That's it, that's what the MD & DC attorneys general argued in announcing their suit, straight out saying Congress is not doing its job to make the system work.

Just for the hell of it, I looked up the Congressional oaths

Senators & House of Rep. have identical Oath of Office

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.

Trump could pardon himself of

NCD — Tue, 13 Jun 2017 21:15:10 +0000

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Trump could pardon himself of any transgressions, emoluments, Russian meddling.

My understanding is he would have to resign or be impeached. By Republicans. When "the Base" finally has had enough of him.

If Trump keeps firing DOJ people until he finds one to fire Mueller:

Goldsmith takes heart that if this “crazy scenario” ever happened, “Congress would rise up quickly to stop the President” and noted: “If I am naive in thinking this, then we are indeed in trouble.”

This gets to the heart of the matter. The protection against lawless behavior in a democracy, in the end, isn’t the institutional framework set forth in our Constitution, but the will of public officials to make that system work.... if he tries to sack the special counsel, he will be making a bet that the country is too weak and disoriented (divided is more like it) to stand together behind its constitutional structure of law

Your comment here is very

artappraiser — Tue, 13 Jun 2017 19:35:16 +0000

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Your comments here with Obey are very thought provoking: that the normal line of succession is such a mess that he couldn't follow Nixon's lead if he wanted to, hah, shows what danger we have with this president, does it not? It's like: what impeachment was invented for!

Forget that it's Russia, just the fact of all these foreign "entanglements" with all his people involved one way or another, the nepotism, too. To the founders, it would have looked like there was a coup already, nothing is working the way it should....there's no there there, there's still not a fully operating government there. (A reminder: no U.S. attorney replacements yet!) He blames Dem obstruction, of course, to distract from that they have hardly nominated anyone yet....

I really was impressed with the D.C./Maryland suit, on an emotional, patriotic level and presenting the big picture like we should all be seeing it. Those two guys see wassup, they see the big picture. There is major dysfunction in the presidency. The case itself is piddling, but the stakes are huge. Got yuge foreign entanglements? Divest and don't hire anyone having anything to do with them in any way shape or form or just don't bother to run for president!! Should be just that simple, isn't that what the founders intended?