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Two people in whose words I

Michael Wolraich — Thu, 15 Jun 2017 18:10:36 +0000

In reply to I believe there was collusion

Two people in whose words I have no trust: Putin and Trump

Excellent point

Michael Wolraich — Thu, 15 Jun 2017 18:08:52 +0000

In reply to He really went ballistic when

Excellent point

Absolutely convinced on the

artappraiser — Thu, 15 Jun 2017 16:09:30 +0000

In reply to He really went ballistic when

Absolutely convinced on the financial angle. Because: the refusal to show tax returns. Being able to release honest tax returns would have helped him a great deal when he was running and would have helped him in his first days too. But he couldn't. He would have rather risk losing the race than release his tax returns. A reminder on all counts: that the was surprised at his victory, too. It's one of his favorite things to harp on: a race that the Democrats/Hillary should have won. It's their fault, not his.

I believe there was collusion

artappraiser — Thu, 15 Jun 2017 16:01:36 +0000

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I believe there was collusion with Putin's regime

But Putin scoffs, often sarcastically teases that the collusion accusations are silly; new one today:

Putin sarcastically offers fired FBI director Comey political asylum in Russia

When it comes to the meddling question, that he handles differently, admitting it might have been done "by patriots", but the collusion accusations he treats like a joke, like nothing's going to come of it and we are all deluded over here.

It s only 150 or so days into

rmrd0000 — Thu, 15 Jun 2017 15:30:27 +0000

In reply to He really went ballistic when

It s only 150 or so days into this madness.

He really went ballistic when

Obey — Thu, 15 Jun 2017 15:28:52 +0000

In reply to It already means something.

He really went ballistic when it came out that Mueller was hiring the top experts in financial crimes. Off the top of my head, he would be worrying about, in order of increasing seriousness:

1. Some light unrelated accounting fraud and or some undisclosed off-shore accounts that they might dig up,

2. His habitual money laundering activities much like those he has already been fined for,

3. Outright tax fraud,

4. Straight up bribes from the Russians as part of the election collusion funneled through off shore accounts.

Even in the case of 1 or 2, the way he seems to have tried to cover it up is in and of itself a scandal worth impeachment. But given how badly he wants to get rid of Mueller despite everyone telling him not to, it's probably 3 or 4.

It already means something.

Michael Wolraich — Thu, 15 Jun 2017 14:58:38 +0000

In reply to In the end though if Mueller

It already means something. Trump was flipping out about the investigation even before he was being investigated. Now that it's happening, and all the world knows that it's happening, he's probably losing his shit. Meanwhile congressional Republicans will keep their distance, potential hires will respectfully decline the opportunity to serve in his administration, and his approval rating will continue to sputter.

Will it mean impeachment? I agree with you--only if Mueller uncovers a serious crime motivating the obstruction. But I predict that will happen. I believe there was collusion with Putin's regime, and if so, there are way too many incompetents running around to keep the secrets hidden. Mueller may not be able to tie the collusion directly to Trump, but if he convicts Trump's associates--particularly Flynn--and if there is circumstantial evidence suggesting that Trump was aware of the crime, then the obstruction charges will stick.

Synecdoche, 2017

Obey — Thu, 15 Jun 2017 09:53:44 +0000

In reply to Special counsel is investigating Trump for possible obstruction of justice, officials say

Synecdoche, 2017

In the end though if Mueller

ocean-kat — Thu, 15 Jun 2017 04:21:39 +0000

In reply to Special counsel is investigating Trump for possible obstruction of justice, officials say

In the end though if Mueller doesn't find some actual reason for Trump to obstruct justice he'll never be charged and it won't mean anything.

Audio vibe. And colors.

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 15 Jun 2017 04:18:26 +0000

In reply to oh no problem, just forget

Audio vibe. And colors.