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Fire Hazards Force Evacuation

artappraiser — Fri, 23 Jun 2017 21:26:31 +0000

In reply to An inferno seemingly from another time or place kills 12 in London

Fire Hazards Force Evacuation of London High Rises

By CEYLAN YEGINSU @ NYTimes.com, 21 minutes ago

Residents of over 800 apartments were being relocated after inspectors found safety problems including exterior cladding similar to that on the West London building that burned last week.

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Five London tower blocks to be evacuated over safety fears after Grenfell fire

@ The Guardian.com/uk, June 23

Residents of the 800 homes on Chalcots estate to be moved into temporary accommodation for three to four weeks after fire brigade inspection

Interesting, thanks. Corbin

rmrd0000 — Fri, 16 Jun 2017 20:02:04 +0000

In reply to May is incompetent.

Interesting, thanks. Corbyn may wind up Prime Minister because of the total incompetence of the Conservatives.

(corrected for spelling of Corbyn)

May is incompetent.

NCD — Fri, 16 Jun 2017 19:36:06 +0000

In reply to May seems incompetent. She

May is incompetent.

Corbyn is a competent self promoter who relishes the attack, while having no record of concrete accomplishment after 30+ years in government. His terrorism votes typify his creed of useless publicity seeking gesturing.

Corbyn sat back and didn't campaign for the stay EU vote, perhaps because he knew leaving would create UK turmoil and more fertile ground and opportunity for him to harangue and criticize the state of the nation and those in power, who would no longer be in Brussels but closer and easier targets.

Every member of Parliament bears responsibility for the weak national fire codes.

Apparently there is a shortage of smart leadership in the UK.

May seems incompetent. She

rmrd0000 — Fri, 16 Jun 2017 17:14:04 +0000

In reply to The term "safe and habitable"

May seems incompetent. She came to the site but left without talking to those grieving or the survivors. Corbin was much more hands on with the survivors. This cannot bode well for May long term.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/grenfell-tower-fire-lates...

The term "safe and habitable"

HSG — Fri, 16 Jun 2017 17:09:03 +0000

In reply to The Corbyn "safe and

The term "safe and habitable" is a legal one with a specific meaning. In the United States, landlords have a legal obligation in nearly every state to provide a "save and habitable" residence to their tenants. While there are of course grey areas as to what constitutes safe and habitable, cladding a 24-story building in flammable materials, failing to maintain an effective fire extinguishing system, relying on one poorly lit staircase for evacuation, and constructing a tower without ensuring fire fighters easy access, constitutes by definition a violation of this right.

Still, Corbyn's proposed legislation required only private landlords to afford "safe and habitable" residences. The Greenfell Tower was publicly-owned so it wouldn't have come within the ambit of Corbyn's law. Corbyn's votes on "anti-terror" legislation are irrelevant to this discussion as the 30+ deaths and dozens of other injuries were not due to terrorism.

The Corbyn "safe and

NCD — Thu, 15 Jun 2017 16:03:06 +0000

In reply to The UK's Bernie Sanders -

The Corbyn "safe and habitable homes" is typically lazy finger waving. It would seem to be so undefined on specifics to accomplish nothing but more hot air, lawyering and finger waving.

Corbyn, like Bernie, is a life long back bencher forever railing about 'the corrupt system' while not actually in their long tenure in government achieving consensus on anything and getting results.

Where were his actions to ensure property wide integrated fire alarms work, and mandating fire drills as required in public housing? Would the Tories vote against specifics like that?

Why only one stairway in a 24 story building? Legislation needs to be direct and targeted, "habitable" isn't.

Why did Corbyn oppose 13 anti-terror laws, which have jailed ISIS terrorists after their return to Britain? Votes like that ensure he will never rise to be Prime Minister, if that post is even his objective.

The UK's Bernie Sanders -

HSG — Thu, 15 Jun 2017 13:47:15 +0000

In reply to An inferno seemingly from another time or place kills 12 in London

The UK's Bernie Sanders - Jeremy Corbyn - tried to pass a law last year to require landlord to maintain safe and habitable homes. Tory MPs, many of whom are landlords themselves, voted it down. When economic stratification provides the rentier class with outsized political influence, people die.