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Maher just loves himself too

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 24 Aug 2017 05:14:53 +0000

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Maher just loves himself too much, too Eddie Haskell.

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artappraiser — Thu, 24 Aug 2017 05:03:43 +0000

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cool head:

Nation Begs Disaffected Youth

artappraiser — Sat, 19 Aug 2017 04:23:14 +0000

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Nation Begs Disaffected Youth Gravitating Toward Neo-Nazism To Get High And Play Xbox Instead

Lulu,

artappraiser — Fri, 18 Aug 2017 15:56:09 +0000

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Lulu,

There is a new piece on Antifa @ NYTimes and it's interesting on what we are talking about here.

It appears they do want to "fight", on this principle:

“ “People are starting to understand that neo-Nazis don’t care if you’re quiet, you’re peaceful,” said Emily Rose Nauert, a 20-year-old antifa member who became a symbol of the movement in April when a white nationalist leader punched her in the face during a melee near the University of California, Berkeley.

You need violence in order to protect nonviolence,” Ms. Nauert added. “That’s what’s very obviously necessary right now. It’s full-on war, basically.”

It's pretty much the "just war" argument as I see it. Not bag of hormones, but of course, bag of hormones people might naturally join in as violent activities result on the city streets of a democratic nation. Interested in any input you might care to share.

Wow, I thought I was going

Michael Maiello — Fri, 18 Aug 2017 02:23:24 +0000

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Wow, I thought I was going out on a limb criticizing Stewart. You just stepped on a land mine praising Maher.

Yeah, I've reached a period of my life where the kids (and also not kids, but people who really keep current in their views of what's acceptable) are kind of tossing wrecking balls at my favorites. I liked early Dennis Miller, too! I was in middle school when I watched him on SNL, but he was my Weekend Update guy. Hard to hate him now, even though I disagree with his politics. Maher is guilty, as you say, of softballing some right wingers on his show. I actually think he just failed to keep up with how nutty their fringe has become. There was a time when a liberal comedian could spar deftly but affectionately with a conservative. Think Woody Allen and William Buckley TV encounters. Maher made some mistakes. But he's no journalist, and they were mostly journalism mistakes.

I respect his integrity. I'd say that on a bigger forum, and all of this as well. I know it wouldn't go well for me.

But, you know, when it comes to liking artists despite the social tidal currents, I've been swimming in an infinite lap pool for a long time.

Wow, I thought I was going

ocean-kat — Thu, 17 Aug 2017 19:48:19 +0000

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Wow, I thought I was going out on a limb criticizing Stewart. You just stepped on a land mine praising Maher. If this were a bigger site flame wars would ensue. I don't think there's any doubt the Maher takes more risks and I like that about him. My problem is he sucks at the one on one interview and he's willing to give people like Yiannopoulos and other right wingers cover in the name of free speech and being politically incorrect. It's ok to give him an interview but he should do his homework and hold his feet to the fire if he's going to give him a microphone on his show.

Sure - he scratched the

Obey — Thu, 17 Aug 2017 19:27:06 +0000

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Sure - he scratched the cognitive itch. He didn't try popping dislocated neural networks back into place. Not a comic chiropractor. You probably need a licence for that.

I know other fine folk who

Obey — Thu, 17 Aug 2017 19:23:57 +0000

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I know other fine folk who like him too. But you all have terrible terrible taste in comedians. It's like watching a terrible Richard Dawkins lecture, except he also thinks he's funny and sexy.

you really want to get into

artappraiser — Thu, 17 Aug 2017 19:11:47 +0000

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you really want to get into agitation that only old people will understand, one could get into how great Dennis Miller was in his first incarnation.

(Oh the pre-internet memories come flooding now. Bill Maher's first talk show offered a good alternative to Crossfire, was Phil Donahue turned upside down.The short lived late night show with Arianna Huffington as the conservative and Al Franken as the liberal, having literal pillow talk in a bed was just plain fun...)

My problem with Stewart is it

ocean-kat — Thu, 17 Aug 2017 19:10:04 +0000

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My problem with Stewart is it usually felt to me that rather than really digging in he just scratched the spot.