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Could you cite something to

rmrd0000 — Mon, 21 Aug 2017 14:27:20 +0000

In reply to Mitch Landrieu knew that it

Could you cite something to support your opinion that NYC is post racial?

Mitch Landrieu knew that it

rmrd0000 — Mon, 21 Aug 2017 11:29:18 +0000

In reply to Trump makes it imperative for

Mitch Landrieu knew that it fell to him to address the Confederate statues in New Orleans. He accepted the burden. Whites realized that their presence was needed to counter the divisive message of white supremacists. They accepted the burden and showed up in Charlottesville and in Boston. White supremacists need to hear that they are deplorable from other whites. Whites are taking on the burden of countering white supremacists, it is a thing of beauty.

White activists are not hiding behind mixed families to stay on the sidelines and pretend that we are post racial. They are attacking racism.

another overnight move to

artappraiser — Mon, 21 Aug 2017 06:43:52 +0000

In reply to Keep the monuments

another overnight move to avoid controversy or violence, like mayor of Baltimore did, U Texas-Austin:

University of Texas removes Confederate statues

Washington Post 1h ago

Related Coverage

Overnight removal of confederate statues from UT ordered by President Fenves

Local Source KXAN.com 1h ago

Flavius, if your question was

artappraiser — Mon, 21 Aug 2017 00:56:47 +0000

In reply to According to who?

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Flavius, if your question was

artappraiser — Mon, 21 Aug 2017 00:51:58 +0000

In reply to According to who?

Flavius, if your question was less rhetorical and more about the real practical process about having publicly displayed Confederate statues moved . I found this WaPo video to be quite good as an overview of what happened with the one statue in Charlottesburg

It's not so easy. Precisely because: it's a minority of people who really care passionately about putting a lot of energy into removing them or in having them stay. They are an irritant to many of the locals, but people have higher priorities with the local government that applies. Just letting them sit out of inertia is easy. Getting rid of them is hard. Many people don't even know who the statue is of anymore, others who might like to see them gone are not going to take off of work to go to the City Council meeting to say so. If they are going to be going to a council meeting, it's going to be about controlling rising rents.

Then when you say you are taking it down, some racist yahoo finds the money to challenge it in court. Costs more money and time. Rinse and repeat UNTIL: national white supremacist groups get interested and come to your city or town and get violent. Then you can much more easily remove such statues based on security grounds, that you don't want these statues up drawing violent white nationalists to your locality. And few will squawk about it because they don't want the violent drawn to their community!

The point I was trying to make is that the white nationalists, and Trump, by making it a big violence-related deal, is making it much easier to finally move statues that many would have liked to see gone long ago. Just not in the budget until it was a security issue.

Also keep in mind all of the statues being talked about are not on public property and therefore not owned by and being maintained by taxpayers of a local government. One example is that Duke University just removed one of Robert E. Lee. They are a private university and can display any art they desire.

Trump makes it imperative for

artappraiser — Mon, 21 Aug 2017 00:08:15 +0000

In reply to Trump makes it imperative for

Trump makes it imperative for whites to address the mess that he created

Not really. Not all whites. First of all, a majority of them are on the side that fought and won a Civil War and then were against Jim Crow. Why is it imperative for people with white skin alone to address those with white skin who racist southerners.

Why do you insist on using rhetoric that is segregationist as to black skin and white skin?

There's the many new mixed race citizens since laws against interracial marriage were revoked, where do they fit in your "all blacks are responsible for blacks" and "all whites are responsible for all whites" rhetoric.

I find it offensive, really I do. It's like you are buying into the whole southern segregationist narrative sometimes.I just don't think that way, I am used to having a mixed family and living in a mixed race city.

That's it! Next subject?

Flavius — Sun, 20 Aug 2017 23:58:30 +0000

In reply to Brilliant idea!

That's it!

Next subject?

Once again, NCD, I bow in awe

artappraiser — Sun, 20 Aug 2017 23:56:31 +0000

In reply to PUT THE BEAUTIFUL BEAUTIFUL

Once again, NCD, I bow in awe of your skillful introjection

Brilliant idea!

rmrd0000 — Sun, 20 Aug 2017 21:19:41 +0000

In reply to PUT THE BEAUTIFUL BEAUTIFUL

Brilliant idea!

PUT THE BEAUTIFUL BEAUTIFUL

NCD — Sun, 20 Aug 2017 19:54:58 +0000

In reply to Keep the monuments

PUT THE BEAUTIFUL BEAUTIFUL STATUES ON TRUMP PROPERTIES AND AT FRONT DOORS & RECEPTION AREAS OF TRUMP HOTELS.

Nazis and KKK and bigots can gather there and wave swastikas.