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So ironic that the above case

artappraiser — Thu, 24 Aug 2017 19:55:29 +0000

So ironic that the above case exactly illustrates this sure-to-be-controversial op-ed in the NYT today, which I happened on after posting the above:

Why Is the Southern Poverty Law Center Targeting Liberals?

By AYAAN HIRSI ALI

though she doesn't emphasize enough how the extremist ideologues she's against target young male cannon fodder. That if they couldn't get enough cannon fodder, their hate speech would merely stay as: speech.

White supremacist Christopher

artappraiser — Thu, 24 Aug 2017 18:53:00 +0000

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White supremacist Christopher Cantwell surrenders to police

By Darran Simon and Rosa Flores, CNN, Updated 2:18 PM ET, Thu August 24, 2017

Christopher Cantwell, who was featured in a Vice documentary about a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, was denied bail on Thursday after turning himself in earlier, a senior law enforcement official said.

Police at the University of Virginia, where a torch-lit march was held on August 11, had issued warrants for his arrest on two counts of illegal use of tear gas and other gases, and one count of malicious bodily injury with a caustic substance. All the charges are felonies.

The New Hampshire resident surrendered to police in Lynchburg, Virginia, on Wednesday.

Cantwell was denied bond in Albemarle County General District Court, according to the senior law enforcement official in Charlottesville. He appeared in court via video conference from the Albemarle County Regional Jail.

A preliminary hearing was set for October 12 [.....]

an example of more young

artappraiser — Thu, 24 Aug 2017 18:44:26 +0000

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an example of more young losers, taking extremist ideologies on and off like a pair of pants:

Tampa man arrested for allegedly killing 'neo-Nazi' roommates for disrespecting his Muslim faith

@ ABC News, May 22, 2017

[....] Arthurs said that he had once shared a common neo-Nazi belief with the two men before converting to Islam and that the killings stemmed from his roommates' disrespecting his Muslim faith.

The FBI arrested Arthurs' third roommate, Brandon Russell, on May 21 after allegedly being linked to explosive devices found in the apartment [.....]

Fascinating on the ad

artappraiser — Wed, 23 Aug 2017 17:52:12 +0000

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Fascinating on the ad targeting and social work activity, reminds me of A Clockwork Orange

How to Fight the Allure of White Supremacy and ISIS/

A Hunt for Ways to Combat Online Radicalization

By Farhad Manjoo @ nytimes.com, Aug. 23

There are similarities between how Islamists and white nationalists operate online, researchers said. Those can be used to limit recruitment’s reach.

[....] The similarities suggest a kind of blueprint for a response — efforts that may work for limiting the reach of jihadists may also work for white supremacists, and vice versa.

In fact, that’s the battle plan. Several research groups in the United States and Europe now see the white supremacist and jihadi threats as two faces of the same coin. They’re working on methods to fight both, together — and slowly, they have come up with ideas for limiting how these groups recruit new members to their cause.

Their ideas are grounded in a few truths about how extremist groups operate online, and how potential recruits respond. After speaking to many researchers, I compiled this rough guide for combating online radicalization: [....]

Another key issue is timing. There’s a brief window between initial interest in an extremist ideology and a decision to join the cause — and after recruits make that decision, they are often beyond the reach of outsiders. For instance, Jigsaw found that when jihadists began planning their trips to Syria to join ISIS, they had fallen too far down the rabbit hole and dismissed any new information presented to them.

Jigsaw put these findings to use in an innovative way. It curated a series of videos showing what life is truly like under the Islamic State in Syria and Iraq. The videos, which weren’t filmed by news outlets, offered a credible counterpoint to the fantasies peddled by the group — they show people queuing up for bread, fighters brutally punishing civilians, and women and children being mistreated.

Then, to make sure potential recruits saw the videos at the right time in their recruitment process, Jigsaw used one of Google’s most effective technologies: ad targeting. In the same way that a pair of shoes you looked up last week follows you around the internet, Jigsaw’s counterterrorism videos were pushed to likely recruits.

Jigsaw can’t say for sure if the project worked, but it found that people spent lots of time watching the videos, which suggested they were of great interest, and perhaps dissuaded some from extremism.

Moonshot CVE, which worked with Jigsaw on the Redirect project, put together several similar efforts to engage with both jihadists and white supremacist groups. It has embedded undercover social workers in extremist forums who discreetly message potential recruits to dissuade them. And lately it’s been using targeted ads to offer mental health counseling to those who might be radicalized [.....]

These guys have become so

artappraiser — Mon, 21 Aug 2017 20:28:23 +0000

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These guys have become so toxic to touch by any wing of the GOP that conspiracy theories are starting to form that they were agents of a plot by Obama, McAuliffe and Soros:

Idaho Rep. Bryan Zollinger on Friday posted a story on Facebook that suggested Obama and other top Democrats like billionaire George Soros and Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe were part of a conspiracy to set up the rally, the Post Register reported.

“I’m not saying it is true, but I am suggesting that it is completely plausible,” Zollinger wrote on Facebook.

from The Hill, Aug. 21: Idaho state rep shares conspiracy theory accusing Obama of staging Charlottesville

Thanks, OGD.

CVille Dem — Mon, 21 Aug 2017 11:56:20 +0000

In reply to CVilleDem . . . See my latest

Thanks, OGD.

CVilleDem . . . See my latest

oldenGoldenDecoy — Mon, 21 Aug 2017 03:20:32 +0000

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CVilleDem . . . See my latest post.

Here's something for this...

"What I am trying to wrap my head around is the older population..."

Read my latest here...

Wound Collectors: The Lowest Base of the President's Base?

~OGD~

See below video.

artappraiser — Mon, 21 Aug 2017 03:15:38 +0000

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Good on you for working that topic. See below video.

Than just suggestions on the adults:

Rural vs. urban, country mouse vs. urban educated city mouse cosmpolitans getting all the pieces of the pie?

Everyone's that's working against traditional values--whatever those are depending upon environment--has ruined everything and is winning and we traditionals are losing?

That particular anger and hate, it really is international, we should all keep that in mind.

Father of Barcelona suspects:

artappraiser — Mon, 21 Aug 2017 03:08:20 +0000

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Father of Barcelona suspects: 'They became like soldiers, but they were so young'

A majority of the suspects in the Barcelona attacks are from the small mountain town of Ripoll, in northern Spain. Among the suspects are two brothers, Said and Yousseff Aallaa.

Washington Post subtitled video of their father speaking 3:17 minutes, Aug. 19

I am working on a scholarly

CVille Dem — Mon, 21 Aug 2017 02:39:18 +0000

In reply to Peyton Oubre, 21, of Metairie

I am working on a scholarly piece about the fact that most adolescents and early 20-somethings feel alienated. Why do they feel this way? As children, we all assume our families are normal; it is how some manage to cope with abuse, crude behaviors, and mores that don't make sense as we learn about societal expectations of behaviors. it is when some children are confronted with "normal" families of friends, and the way they relate to each other that they notice the pathology/sadness/abuse in their own families.

Prior to the internet, all we had to adjust our behavior and also learn from those who were successful around us was our own personal experiences. We learned that some behaviors worked and some didn't. The internet and talk radio has pushed us to a terrible opposite: one where some seek out those who justify uninformed conspiracies at the expense of thoughtfulness and seeking to be truly informed.

What I am trying to wrap my head around is the older population that is just plain pissed off and seems to have never had an actual thought go through their heads.