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So you think Trump focused

artappraiser — Sun, 03 Sep 2017 17:13:09 +0000

So you think Trump focused more on issues and less on personality than Hillary?!

Primaries, if that's what you are thinking about here, they too draw more serious voters and fewer general public. It's the big final races I am talking about.

Unless there is some new charismatic celebrity personality star rising in a primary, like Obama was the first time. Then he/she gathers a bunch of passionate fans that volunteer to do more P.R. about how fabulous he/she is. (Obama's persona the first time was manufactured, too, as sure as any from Hollywood. "Dreams from my Father" etc. Hillary has always had a problem in that her celebrity personality was manufactured by others, mostly enemies of her husband and her, going way back to her days as first lady of Arkansas.)

I was responding to AA's

HSG — Sun, 03 Sep 2017 03:26:23 +0000

In reply to I think you missed the point

I was responding to AA's comment - "'[s]tick to the issues, don't run a personal campaign.' Oh I think that's correct if you're running for congressional, other than president or perhaps governor." I agree with your point and Vox's.

I think you missed the point

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 02 Sep 2017 21:02:30 +0000

In reply to The candidate who focused

I think you missed the point of my post -even this Vox article is saying Hillary didn't do the x, y and z she needed to, but the Alabama candidate that focuses on x, y and z... gets 0 support, Dems have yet another set of rules why they can't contest yet another election. But we'll find one one day that dots all the i's and ticks all the check boxes.

The candidate who focused

HSG — Sat, 02 Sep 2017 19:54:29 +0000

In reply to Stick to the issues, don't

The candidate who focused more on personality in last year's Presidential campaign is about to embark on a book-selling tour. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/3/8/14848636/hillary-clinto...

Stick to the issues, don't

artappraiser — Fri, 01 Sep 2017 17:47:38 +0000

In reply to Bama Dem fails for doing what they asked Hillary to do

Stick to the issues, don't run a personal campaign

Oh I think that's correct if you're running for congressional, other than president or perhaps governor.

When you run for president, on the other hand, every Tom Dick and Harry comes out to vote for their favorite personality after the long kayfabe horse race performance. If you don't have an opinion to share on what you like or don't like about the main actors, you're a social loser. So they must run on their personality and how well they fight and pander without too much wonk detail.

Otherwise, especially for mid-terms and special replacement elections, only the voters serious about government, party dominance and/or individual issues show up to vote. Sometimes extremely passionate about issues, say like: abortion. They don't care about personality.

In presidential years, there's a lot more voters voting for the congressional races, but there too personality isn't that important, they vote "down ticket" party line or just guess.

This is the problem of our long expensive horse race for president. Everyone gets to know the candidates more intimately and gets interested and votes on that basis.

Happens to be why I was upset when Josh Marshall clearly decided to go after horse race coverage over policy coverage at TPM in 2008 (partly to up his numbers and partly because he likes both kinds of news) and invited a huge flood of Obama fans to flood TPM Cafe in 2008, fans of his skin color and his personality and his biography, clearly weren't reading his white papers.