dagblog - Comments for "Trump sides with Democrats on fiscal issues, throwing Republican plans into chaos" http://dagblog.com/link/trump-sides-democrats-fiscal-issues-throwing-republican-plans-chaos-23450 Comments for "Trump sides with Democrats on fiscal issues, throwing Republican plans into chaos" en " Trump didn't have a lot of http://dagblog.com/comment/242619#comment-242619 <a id="comment-242619"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/trump-sides-democrats-fiscal-issues-throwing-republican-plans-chaos-23450">Trump sides with Democrats on fiscal issues, throwing Republican plans into chaos</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><blockquote> <p>" Trump didn't have a lot of 'Here is my agenda...I have to persuade people...."Catalist's Laura Quinn told me</p> <p> " The Trump world( Laura Quinn being quoted again)  was more like "Let's say a lot of different things, they don't even need to be coherent....and observe how people respond......that truly was creative,different " etc.</p> </blockquote> <p>Sue Halpern , The New York Review, June 8 2017.</p> <p>Which also includes</p> <p>.....On election day.....Trump bought all the ad space on YouTube........once  viewers watched one of the</p> <p>thirty-second video to the end , they landed on a screen with a polling place locator. "We  had hundreds of thousands of people use the 'find your polling place' locator. When you're talking about winning by thousands of votes this stuff matter"</p> <p>....(In March (they) won an...award for its "Can't  Run Her House" ad ,which used a clip from the 2008 ..primary of Michelle Obama  criticizing Clinton.)</p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p>And</p> <p>One post featured....Hillary Clinton using her  1996 remarks in which she  called ...young black men "super predators"</p> <p>"We're modeled this......"It will dramatically affect her ability to turn these people out ."</p> <p>Trump's team "understood that some numbers matter more than others- in this case the number of disenfranchised potential Trump voters.</p> <p>" What our Facebook president  has discovered is that it actually pays only to please some of the people some of the time, The rest simply don't count."</p> <p>He's still doing it.</p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Fri, 08 Sep 2017 11:58:24 +0000 Flavius comment 242619 at http://dagblog.com Cue the Twilight Zone music: http://dagblog.com/comment/242618#comment-242618 <a id="comment-242618"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/trump-sides-democrats-fiscal-issues-throwing-republican-plans-chaos-23450">Trump sides with Democrats on fiscal issues, throwing Republican plans into chaos</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Cue the Twilight Zone music:</p> <p><a href="http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/07/trump-jovial-after-debt-deal-242466?lo=ap_b1">Trump, jovial after debt deal, turns meeting into a freewheeling affair</a></p> <div>By Josh Dawsey, @ Politico.com, Updated 09/07/2017 08:14 PM</div> <blockquote> <p>President Donald Trump repeatedly said Thursday how thrilled he was to strike a deal on the debt ceiling with Sen. Chuck Schumer, the Democratic leader he has accused of shedding "fake tears" and whom he once called a “head clown.”</p> <p>In an Oval Office meeting with the New York and New Jersey congressional delegations, he repeatedly shook Schumer’s hand and kept him after for a private session, his third chat with the Democrat in 30 hours.</p> <p>He praised Gov. Andrew Cuomo — who also attended the meeting and who has often torched Trump but without mentioning his name — for his work on the Tappan Zee Bridge and other New York projects. “My governor!” he said to Cuomo, according to Rep. Peter King, a New York Republican.</p> <p>He told the room that New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie coached him in the 2016 presidential debates against Hillary Clinton, and that “Hillary was easy” after dealing with “Chris.” He wished Christie, whose birthday was Wednesday, a happy one. “You should give him a tunnel for his birthday,” Schumer said, drawing laughs from the room, referring to the Gateway rail-expansion project [....]</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Fri, 08 Sep 2017 07:15:33 +0000 artappraiser comment 242618 at http://dagblog.com Soap operas with their http://dagblog.com/comment/242614#comment-242614 <a id="comment-242614"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/242613#comment-242613">for today he&#039;s still playing</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Soap operas with their shocking plot twists are an extremely popular form of entertainment. Joe and Sarah are deeply in love only to break up and see Sarah and Bruce fall in love. They might eventually get married only to see Sarah fall in love with Jake. After divorcing Bruce to marry Jake Sarah might divorce Jake to end up with her true love all along, Joe. Lather, rinse and repeat.</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erica_Kane#Marriages_and_relationships">Erica Kane</a> has been married to multiple men, some more than once. Seven of her marriages to six different men have been valid, while four of her other marriages are invalid. Generally, the number of times Erica has been married is named as ten,<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erica_Kane#cite_note-soapoperadigest.com-49">[48]</a> though the total of her valid and invalid marriages, plus her 1991 vow renewal with Adam Chandler, would come up to eleven.</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Thu, 07 Sep 2017 20:47:58 +0000 ocean-kat comment 242614 at http://dagblog.com for today he's still playing http://dagblog.com/comment/242613#comment-242613 <a id="comment-242613"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/242608#comment-242608">If this is a Mexican standoff</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>for today he's still playing Mr. Bipartisan</p> <p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/07/us/politics/trump-pelosi-daca.html">Trump Says He’ll Pursue More Deals With Democrats</a></p> <p>By PETER BAKER and SHERYL GAY STOLBERG 3:04 PM ET @ NYTimes.com</p> <p><em>President Trump continued to wage peace with the opposition party, calling party leaders in hopes of finding more areas of agreement.</em></p> <p>Maybe only because it gets him new fans, a whole new set of them from the Faux media, doncha know; rave reviews, yuge:</p> <blockquote> <p>Mr. Trump called Senator Chuck Schumer of New York and Representative <a class="meta-per" href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/p/nancy_pelosi/index.html?inline=nyt-per" title="More articles about Nancy Pelosi.">Nancy Pelosi</a> of California to reinforce his willingness to keep working across party lines. He was effusive about their consensus. “The press has been incredible,” he told Ms. Pelosi, according to a person briefed on the call [....]</p> <p>Mr. Trump told reporters after the calls that the deal may signal a new era of bipartisanship. “I think we will have a different relationship than we’ve been watching over the last number of years. I hope so,” he said. “I think that’s a great thing for our country. And I think that’s what the people of the United States want to see. They want to see some dialogue. They want to see coming together to an extent.”</p> </blockquote> <p>Here's Ryan trying to spin the situation:</p> <blockquote> <p>“What the president didn’t want to do is have some partisan fight in the middle of the response to this,” Speaker Paul D. Ryan of Wisconsin said in a <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/07/us/politics/paul-ryan-daca-taxes.html?hp&amp;action=click&amp;pgtype=Homepage&amp;clickSource=story-heading&amp;module=second-column-region&amp;region=top-news&amp;WT.nav=top-news">separate interview with The Times</a>. “He wanted to make sure we had a bipartisan moment.”</p> </blockquote> <p>and Ryan may still be be hopeful about charming him but McConnell may be a lost cause?</p> <blockquote> <p>As he reached out to Democrats again on Thursday morning, Mr. Trump also worked to keep the lines of communication open with Republicans. He called Mr. Ryan and Mr. McConnell and planned to host the House speaker for dinner at the White House on Thursday night.</p> </blockquote> <p> And here's Mnuchin trying to spin what Trump did to him:</p> <blockquote> <p>“The best part about this is this clears out the next 90 days for us to focus on important things,” Mr. Mnuchin told the Fox Business Network, sidestepping his own opposition to the president’s decision.</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Thu, 07 Sep 2017 20:17:21 +0000 artappraiser comment 242613 at http://dagblog.com If this is a Mexican standoff http://dagblog.com/comment/242608#comment-242608 <a id="comment-242608"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/242607#comment-242607">p.s. yes, I know, a </a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>If this is a Mexican standoff, Trump could be threatening the GOP to squash the investigations for him or else he is going to go bipartisan on their hind parts big time.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 07 Sep 2017 17:09:17 +0000 moat comment 242608 at http://dagblog.com p.s. yes, I know, a http://dagblog.com/comment/242607#comment-242607 <a id="comment-242607"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/242606#comment-242606">BUT WAIT, THERE&#039;S MORE heresy</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>p.s. yes, I know, a “gentlemen’s agreement" with Trump is worth less than 2 cents, but still. What is clear is that he is on a tear to piss off the GOP. If there's any strategy behind freaking them out, as opposed to just knee jerk, that's the interesting question. And, of course, how they react. I.E., will congressional GOP be more open to getting on board with any Mueller accusations because he's been so erratic towards them?</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 07 Sep 2017 16:59:37 +0000 artappraiser comment 242607 at http://dagblog.com BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE heresy http://dagblog.com/comment/242606#comment-242606 <a id="comment-242606"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/trump-sides-democrats-fiscal-issues-throwing-republican-plans-chaos-23450">Trump sides with Democrats on fiscal issues, throwing Republican plans into chaos</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE heresy!  "BREAKING NEWS" headline @ WaPo:</p> <div> <div> <div> <div> <div><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/09/07/trump-schumer-agree-to-pursue-plan-to-repeal-the-debt-ceiling/">Trump and Schumer agree to pursue plan to repeal the debt ceiling</a></div> <div>President Trump and Chuck Schumer, the Senate's top Democrat, have agreed to pursue a deal that would permanently remove the requirement that Congress repeatedly raise the debt ceiling, three people familiar with the decision said. Trump and the Senate minority leader discussed the idea Wednesday during an Oval Office meeting. One of the people familiar described it as a “gentlemen’s agreement.”</div> <ul><li>By <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/damian-paletta">Damian Paletta</a> and <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/ashley-parker">Ashley Parker</a></li> <li>25 minutes ago</li> </ul></div> </div> </div> </div> </div></div></div> Thu, 07 Sep 2017 16:52:17 +0000 artappraiser comment 242606 at http://dagblog.com The New York Times: http://dagblog.com/comment/242595#comment-242595 <a id="comment-242595"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/trump-sides-democrats-fiscal-issues-throwing-republican-plans-chaos-23450">Trump sides with Democrats on fiscal issues, throwing Republican plans into chaos</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><div> <p>The New York Times:</p> <div> <p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/06/us/politics/trump-conservatives-democrats-deal.html">Deal with Democrats Is a Nightmare Come True for the G.O.P.</a></p> <p>By JEREMY W. PETERS and MAGGIE HABERMAN 35 minutes ago</p> <p>The president’s move further destabilized a volatile situation for his party, which many Republicans now believe is headed toward a reckoning it can no longer avoid.</p> </div> <div> <div><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/06/us/politics/trump-democrats-deal.html">Republican Leaders Left the Oval Office Shellshocked</a></div> <div> </div> <div>By GLEN THRUSH and MAGGIE HABERMAN, 33 minutes ago</div> </div> <p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/06/us/politics/house-vote-harvey-aid-debt-ceiling.html">Trump Backs Democrats to Seal Stopgap Budget Deal</a></p> <p>By PETER BAKER, THOMAS KAPLAN and MICHAEL D. SHEAR 7:40 PM ET</p> <ul><li><em>Congressional Republicans reluctantly agreed to extend government funding and raise the debt ceiling until December.</em></li> <li><em>The deal sets up a year-end fiscal showdown.</em></li> </ul></div> </div></div></div> Thu, 07 Sep 2017 01:22:21 +0000 artappraiser comment 242595 at http://dagblog.com Paul Ryan: A short-term debt http://dagblog.com/comment/242594#comment-242594 <a id="comment-242594"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/trump-sides-democrats-fiscal-issues-throwing-republican-plans-chaos-23450">Trump sides with Democrats on fiscal issues, throwing Republican plans into chaos</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/09/06/paul-d-ryan-tying-harvey-aid-to-the-debt-ceiling-is-disgraceful-trump-lets-do-it/?tid=pm_politics_pop&amp;utm_term=.92bdbb1519c0">Paul Ryan: A short-term debt ceiling hike is ‘disgraceful.’ Trump: Let’s do it.</a></p> <p>Analysis by Amber Phillips @ WashingtonPost.com, 5:41 pm</p> <p><a href="http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/06/hill-trump-relations-242411">GOP livid after Trump cuts deal with Democrats</a></p> <p><em>Congressional Republicans say the move will only embolden Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi in future talks</em></p> <p>@ Politico.com, 09/06/2017 07:25 PM EDT</p> <p><a href="http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/06/trump-democrats-2018-midterms-242418">GOP worries about whether Trump will be a reliable force for the midterms.</a></p> <p><em>Trump’s flirtation with Democrats makes Republicans nervous about 2018</em></p> <div>@ Poltico.com, 09/06/2017 08:04 PM EDT</div> <div> <p><a href="http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/349540-trump-shocks-gop-by-siding-with-dems">Trump shocks GOP by siding with Dems</a></p> <div>@ TheHill.com, 09/06/17 06:43 PM EDT</div> <div> <p><a href="http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/349533-the-memo-trump-pulls-off-a-stone-cold-stunner">The Memo: Trump pulls off a stone-cold stunner</a></p> <div>@ TheHill.com,  09/06/17 06:19 PM EDT</div> </div> </div> </div></div></div> Thu, 07 Sep 2017 01:08:21 +0000 artappraiser comment 242594 at http://dagblog.com One does not have to be a http://dagblog.com/comment/242593#comment-242593 <a id="comment-242593"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/242592#comment-242592">The bizzarro he-thinks-he-is</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>One does not have to be a financial genius to predict that the markets are going to go crazy and gold will continue to go up...</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 07 Sep 2017 00:58:29 +0000 artappraiser comment 242593 at http://dagblog.com