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I have written several times

rmrd0000 — Sun, 10 Sep 2017 20:10:57 +0000

I have written several times about identity politics and that blacks voters were not happy with Democrats. I will be voting.

Black voters did not see outreach in 2016. They saw Perez and Sanders begging for white votes post-election. There has not been outreach to black communities. Along with the lack of outreach, blacks see Democrats questioning whether social justice should be a major focus. Democrats can either spend money doing outreach in the black community, or they can take the angry, screw you approach you suggest. Hopefully, the Democrats won't be as dumb as you want them to be.

Welcome to the club bro.

HSG — Sun, 10 Sep 2017 18:23:03 +0000

In reply to Except... I'm coming around

Welcome to the club (Bernie) bro.

You claimed several times

ocean-kat — Sun, 10 Sep 2017 17:59:11 +0000

In reply to The administrators give you

You claimed several times during the election you'd be voting. You threatened several times in this thread that you and other black people would boycott the voting booth. Which is it? Frankly I don't know since you pick what ever position suits you in the moment.

When a candidate loses everyone gets the blame especially when the loss is close. I've seen articles blaming black non voters, Sanders non voters, Sanders attacks on Hillary, white working class, facebook, misogynists, racists, Comey etc. Considering that 78 thousand votes out of 120 million cast would have shifted the electoral college a good case can be made to blame any faction and some author on some web site has made that case. Blacks aren't some special case signaled out for blame. Assignment of blame and outrage about the assignment of blame affects every faction. You're upset that some writers blame black non voters, the Sanders supporters are upset that some authors blame them for Trump, Comey claimed he is "aghast" at the thought that he might have affected the election, Zuckerberg said it was "a pretty crazy idea" that fake news on facebook influenced the election.

If that keeps you happy, then

rmrd0000 — Sun, 10 Sep 2017 16:11:35 +0000

In reply to Except that Bernie doesn't

If that keeps you happy, then be happy.

Except that Bernie doesn't

HSG — Sun, 10 Sep 2017 16:06:02 +0000

In reply to Hal, Sanders comes across as

Except that Bernie doesn't only focus on race as I pointed out in my penultimate post before this one. He got BLM's highest rating of any 2016 candidate, was supported by folks like Shaun King and former NAACP Chair Ben Jealous, and got Ta-Nehisi Coates' vote. Also, if he is so alienating why does he have a 73% approval rating among African-Americans overall and how did he narrowly win African American voters under-30, and easily beat Hillary among young Hispanics? If a multi-ethnic, multi-generational Democratic Party is going to have a future, it would seem it will have to embrace the policies articulated by a 76-year old Jewish guy from a nearly lily-white state.

Hal, Sanders comes across as

rmrd0000 — Sun, 10 Sep 2017 15:47:26 +0000

In reply to I'll try one more time RMRD

Hal, Sanders comes across as tone deaf on issues of race. His persistent focus on the economic side is a flaw. I noted that Elizabeth Warren has insight into the impact of race. It is Sanders himself that is alienating. See 2016 posts.

Pericles! Surely you realize

CVille Dem — Sun, 10 Sep 2017 15:44:30 +0000

In reply to With no clear front-runner in

Peracles! Surely you realize how mean and unfair it was for Democratic "operatives" (meaning people who have worked to elect Democrats for years/decades) to support an actual DEMOCRAT. Bernie's nasty comments about the Democratic Party over the years and his inability to accomplish anything should have won them over because EMAILS!!!

I'll try one more time RMRD

HSG — Sun, 10 Sep 2017 15:19:46 +0000

In reply to Hal, this discussion occurred

I'll try one more time RMRD then I'll move on. You wrote: "Putting Bernie Sanders economics only program in practice would alienate many blacks." Could you please explain which aspects of Bernie's economics program would alienate blacks and why? Are you thinking it's his bill for single-payer health care which Kamala Harris is co-sponsoring? How about tuition-free public colleges and universities? Is that something that is likely to alienate blacks? Is it his constant refrain that "free trade" has harmed our poor, working, and middle-class while enriching the affluent and empowering the powerful?

Hal, this discussion occurred

rmrd0000 — Sun, 10 Sep 2017 14:59:32 +0000

In reply to "Putting Bernie Sanders

Hal, this discussion occurred in 2016. Sanders will be too old to run in 2020. The image black voters have of Bernie supporters today is their attack on Kamala Harris. Black voters think Sanders supporters are irrational. Sanders is tone deaf on issues of race. Not many in the black community are listening anymore. Eyes glaze when he says "Millionaires and Billionaires".

Elizabeth Warren seems to have more empathy

2015 speech on police abuse

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/09/27/elizabet...

Warren was bulocked from presenting Coretta Scott King's letter to Congress when Speaking to block Beauregard Sessions as AG. She persisted.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/elizabeth-warren-sessions-silence-...

Noting that racism stymies economic growth in the black community

https://www.boston.com/news/politics/2017/08/28/elizabeth-warren-racism-...

Sanders cannot make inroads in the black community. Warren seems more in tune.

Just having fun.

rmrd0000 — Sun, 10 Sep 2017 14:41:09 +0000

In reply to Oh God, please...? If I'd

Just having fun.