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Bernie, Cornel, etc. are not

rmrd0000 — Fri, 22 Sep 2017 15:48:50 +0000

In reply to The way we fight Republicans

Bernie, Cornel, etc. are not uniters. Watch Bernie turn on Elizabeth Warren if she runs. Cornel thinks he is MLK Jr and takes on "righteous condemnation " of everybody. As I watch Republicans destroy what Obama helped create, I lose patience with the purity folks who have no successes to show.

The way we fight Republicans

HSG — Fri, 22 Sep 2017 15:05:40 +0000

In reply to Hope that you have gotten

The way we fight Republicans is by uniting in support of pro-people, pro-peace, pro-worker, pro-environment, anti-corruption politicians and policies. This is what I have been trying to accomplish for many many years. Okay time for me to move on from this after a quick response to CVille.

Hope that you have gotten

rmrd0000 — Fri, 22 Sep 2017 14:28:17 +0000

In reply to I set forth facts. Sometimes

Hope that you have gotten Obama and Hillary out of your system and are ready to fight Republicans.

I set forth facts. Sometimes

HSG — Fri, 22 Sep 2017 14:13:58 +0000

In reply to Hal, you focus on personality

I set forth facts. Sometimes those facts reflect poorly on particular individuals.

Other countries are paying

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 22 Sep 2017 13:46:59 +0000

In reply to Single-payer costs less per

Other countries are paying much less for *every kind of system*, even ones similar to ours - 2/3 as expensive or less. Choosing the least costly system doesn't necessarily make sense - it requires evaluating costs and benefits, unsurprisingly. The cheapest option besides none is the barebones covers-nothing pseudo-insurance that's worse than useless, as it's a false sense of security.

The guy trading the Humvee

rmrd0000 — Fri, 22 Sep 2017 12:35:45 +0000

In reply to Single-payer costs less per

The guy trading the Humvee wants a Surburban or Expedition SUV.

Hal, you focus on personality

rmrd0000 — Fri, 22 Sep 2017 12:31:29 +0000

In reply to RMRD - I have often asked you

Hal, you focus on personality, not policy. Bernie is in a safe seat in a safe state. He can propose anything he wants. Jealous may make a good Governor but he botched the Shirley Sherri's case when he headed the NAACP. Cornel West wrote an excellent book about Martin Luther King Jr. But, after you get past his hip petty-hop verbiage, he has no practical policy. Sanders has no significant accomplishments in Congress. Single-payer couldn't work in his home state. You list a bunch of personalized with zero policy wins. Obama, the guy you call a crook in the pocket of Wall Street has actual accomplishments. The Republicans are trying to destroy what Obama put in place. That is happening in front of our eyes. Instead of addressing the Republican assault, you want condemnation of Obama and praise for people who have rhetoric and nothing else. You can't explain how single-payer is going to be sold to a voting public that chafes at the word "taxes" and will need serious convincing to give up the health care they receive from employers for a pure government based plan.

Obama is no longer President, but he is respected. Hillary Clinton lost, but she is respected. Bernie Sanders is a nice guy who is well loved in polling when he is not running against anybody for President. I I said, Kamala Harris would wallop him in a head to head political race. Blacks made their decision on Hillary in 2016. Blacks went for Hillary 8:1. Black turnout was down and voter suppression efforts were up. Bernie Sanders lost the black vote in "yuge" numbers. Cornel West is a laughing stock in the black community because he was too arrogant and stupid to admit that Hillary was the best choice. West when after Obama because of inauguration tickets. He supported Jill Stein. I acknowledge his talent in writing a great book on MLK Jr. The rest of his act is tiresome.

Obama is not a crook. Hillary is not a racist. You are stuck in a bubble. The rest of us are doing our best to encourage people to vote. The obstacle facing GOTV in the black community is that Democrats take the black community for granted and spend little money on outreach. Bernie Sanders polls well (this is when he is not running for anything), but dismisses the black community. I am going to continue to warn about neglecting the black community hoping somebody in the DNC pays attention. I'd can be happy with Franken, Warren, Harris, Booker, Patrick, etc. In 2020. None are pure enough to please Bernie. So once again, screw Bernie Sanders.

It may well be that policy

HSG — Fri, 22 Sep 2017 12:11:56 +0000

In reply to Good points OK. The EPA rule

It may well be that policy not self-interest was behind the Obama Administration's decision. Sadly, we can never know since one of the prime beneficiaries of the decision is apparently paying Obama three years later an exorbitant fee for a short speech.

Single-payer costs less per

HSG — Fri, 22 Sep 2017 12:03:54 +0000

In reply to Hillary didn't do as much

Single-payer costs less per person than any other alternative. Countries with it pay less for health care than we do. We would save money if we implemented it. The question you should be asking is why are we paying so much more for so much less.Yes taxes would go up but out-of-pocket health care expenses, including premium payments, co-pays, etc., would go down more. Asking how can we pay for single-payer is like asking a man who is trading in his old humvee for a Prius how he'll be able to afford the hybrid vehicle?

I'd have guessed it was

ocean-kat — Fri, 22 Sep 2017 06:20:31 +0000

In reply to Good points OK. The EPA rule

I'd have guessed it was something like that. I don't think Obama was corrupt. I definitely don't think he was making policy by thinking about speaking gigs he might get three years later. If McCain or Romney had been elected I don't think they'd be corrupt even though I'd likely disagree with most everything they did. Trump? How much money he might make while in office and after is probably always on his mind.

Obama might do something I don't like. Something he might not even like. But he wouldn't do it as a plan to get speaking gigs in the distant future. He might do it to help a vulnerable dem congress person get elected or as a trade for a vote from a senator on something he really wanted. Legislative sausage making not corruption.